as it exists. >> doug oliphant. about the oil producing region, do you have a sense of how much oil production i.s.i.l. is controlling, and how much revenue they are getting from that? >> the answer presently is not much. libyans are not producing what they could be, therefore the wells that i.s.i.l. is getting their hands on, i defer to jack. he's counter. to my understanding is not many. it's not going to produce much for them at this time. >> do you think that the west should assist the libyan national army. specifically what should the u.s. do. at some point if you go in, seeing that you would have to pick sides among the 10 groups other than i.s.i.l., whose side do you select? >> i don't think we necessarily have to pick a side. i think the role that the united states needs to take on is knock heads and get the groups together and force them to form a unity government. i know that is easier said than done, but in some ways the bar is lower. these are more or less sunni arabs, there's a few minorities, largely a