. >> jack berger and doug olivant in washington, d.c, a former ambassador to iraq. mr. olivant, you heard jamie mcintire talking about the unlikelihood of some progress against i.s.i.l. in libya. what do you think based on your knowledge and your conversations with security officials in d.c, will it take to diminish i.s.i.l.'s influence in libya? >> well, the setup piece talked about special forces, raids, and air power. and that's wonderful to do pinprick, stop the bleeding, keep them from expanding. but to really take the fight to i.s.i.l. in libya we have to have a unity government. so the military and the diplomatic tracks aren't contradictory. we need to do one in fairly limited fashion, to do what we can while this unity government tries to establish itself, but that is really the answer in the long term is to get government ton ground that can take fight to i.s.i.l. that we can then support. >> we know that there are at least ten groups vying for power in libya. let's take a look at a map. mr. berger, this question goes to you. i.s.i.l. controls a relatively smal