is doug olivant, al jazeera national security contributor and former director for iraq at the national security council. good evening doug. >> evening, antonio. >> even last week people who were reluctant to criticize security forces, the confusion of the plan in the hat, one said chaos, another said serious mistakes. is this just plain incompensates? >> incompetence? >> i think it's a lack ever coordination, local and national force he who urge don't get along very well. in the new york world center bombing, new york and the state didn't work well, since 9/11 those two agencies work hand and glove. i don't think we are to the point where the belgian federal authorities and the brussels city authorities work that way. >> permanent liaison with belgian intelligence so is it beyond the belgians talking to each other, is it a europe-wide problem that i.s.i.l. crosses borders but intelligence isn't? >> i think that's very much the case and i think we're going to have to see closer coordination between these countries in europe and in particular between belgium and france whose problem does

olivant, a senior fellow at new america, a nonpartisan public policy think tank, a retired army officer who served as iraq director at the u.n. city council during the bush and obama administration. doug thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> take what i just said and tell me how you square this. is i.s.i.l. weaker stronger or roughly the same strength it once was when you take into account the fact they are growing in other places? >> they certainly are growing in other places and that's something we need to take account of. on the other hand, the growth in these places draws strength from the center. and i think as we see their caliphate in iraq and syria continue to shrink then the logic of becoming an affiliate of this shrinkin shrinking entis continue to disappear. >> what is the picture, what are we thinking of doing as the u.s. in iraq? >> well, this is a jsoc force and what they find is very high value targets. they are not going out and killing i.s.i.l. riflen. those working in very, very important aspects of their campaign, finding them, removing them from the battlefield and then further pushing them for intelligence, finding out what they know so they can find the n