doug schultz was making $20,000 a day. >> lucky luciano. >> he was the significant step above. doug schultz decided that he would assassinate tom's dad when he got too great and actually the underworld decided that was a step too far and before dutch could carry out his plan, mr. luciano took care of dutch. >> the impact of this to your family, were there threats to your family? >> well, sure. >> what was it like? did you know about it? >> no. i'm three years older than john. what's happening here in 1936, 1937, i'm 4 or maybe 5. and they -- being the peep that they were they would not share that with us. >> would phthalater tell you about that time? >> no. well, there was illusion to it. but one found out for one self-. >> what did you find out about that, tommy. what were they doing or others doing to try to protect your dad and your family? >> well, he had 24/7 protection and the card, a detective and a driver. i think it was later, the only incident that we did find out about was the missed opportunity to kill him. he had -- he went across the street 96th street where we li