doug scott was the chief lobbyist for the environmentalists. people in future generations will be outraged if we destroy everything natural about this planet in our shortsighted rush to develop everything for short-run economic gain. almost everybody in this country agrees with that. that's why we said to the american people, "write your congressman. "he's about to make a decision of extraordinary importance. "you may never be able to go to that national park. "it's a part of our culture. tell your congressman you care." and millions of people responded. that's why the congress rose to this historic conservation challenge. they sold this issue on the national interest of preserving the lands for the future. everybody will say they support wilderness and parks. if you ask them, "do you support wilderness as a jeopardy of your job?" they'd say no. we couldn't convey that message to the public. secondly, regardless of what people say, there will be a loss of jobs in alaska. when we're faced with unemployment... don young's eloquence was in vain. t

scott says -- doug, if you want to call in, you can use that third line.hat is for third-party candidates and independent candidates. who is the future of your party? we will lead the party in the coming years, following some of what we heard from boston today. at the rnc. we will get to your calls in just a minute. we want to show you a recent town hall in iowa. one of the speakers was senator claire from missouri. she talked that democrats bringing independence to be successful. >> how do we make women's issues -- democratic platform issues, independent? it seems to be we are so locked into partisan arguments. >> independent voters in missouri. it is about the third. there is about 30% of missouri that would not vote to me -- for me to matter what here there is about one third that would vote for me no matter what. [laughter] there is this middle. most of the folks in the middle are perfectly willing to vote for a republican or a democrat. they like compromise and moderation. i think one of the things we need to do is make sure we are communicating alway

doug meyers is chief information officer. and scott saunders.this time i'm going bring them up one at the time. you can sit at the seat. you probably rather come up here. we'll go through and have a few questions. if you don't have a few questions out there, i'll have a few and see where it takes us. chris? >> thank you, chris. let me echo what kurt said. it's a pleasure to be here to talk about cybersecurity and the grid, and also the response in our company has taken. some changes we have made over the past three or four years as we have seen a gathering threat of cyber actors out there. and responding to the changes we have made from a regular -- regulatory perspective. three quick areas i want to touch on so everybody has a change to comment this morning. one is threat. the other is strong govern mans, and commit and control. from a threat perspective, i think the change we have made from a paradigm shift we have to treat cyberthreat with the same respect that we govern forces of nature that -- impact our grid, hurricanes, flood, ice, storms

doug did a good job placing something out there that i think is worth discussing. if you do not -- if we do not need the name of the actor, other information that we do not scott, i have to agree with you that information sharing in and of itself does not solve the problem, but we have to admit it is the cornerstone of solving this problem. without it, you cannot solve it. what would you recommend we do from here when it comes to privacy? perspective,vacy we do not have customer phi in that data stream at all. we agree that from a privacy, we have no concerns over the release of our security information. where we think that we have opportunity is we are seeing what might be coming -- a municipality focused on -- in the center of the state, california is a huge state and we have a lot of other utilities. wouldn't it be great if we could exchange information between us and pg&e and say, look what i am saying and look what you are seeing. we think that information is just noise. together, it is a concerted attack against our region. information sharing with the federal government, i absolutely agree. critical information. we are able to take that and put into our situati

doug myers is chief information fir with pepco holdings and scott saunders, information security officer with sacramento municipal utility district. i will bring them up one at a tile. we'll go through. if we have quick questions, if you don't have questions out there i will have a few questions and we'll see where it takes us. chris? >> okay, curt, thank you. let me echo what kurt said. it is a pleasure to be here to talk about cybersecurity and the grid and also the response that our company has taken and some changes we've made over the past three or four years as we've seen a gathering threat of cyber actors out there, and responding to the changes we've made from a regulatory perspective. from nerc-cip and the cyber rule. one is threat. the other is strong governance and command-and-control. so from a threat perspective, i think the change we've made from a paradigm shift, we have to treat the cyber threat with the same respect that we give to forces of nature that impact our grid. hurricanes, floods, ice, storms. the impact with our grade through the the year and we are organized t

doug did a good job -- and hoosiers want with you. if we don't need the name of the actor, if that's not critical to come if there's other information that quite frankly we don't need, scott, i have to agree with you that information sharing in and of itself does not solve the problem, but we have to admit it is the cornerstone of solving this problem. and without it you cannot solve it. what would you recommend we do from your when it comes to privacy? then i would invite everyone to join in on the. >> i think from a privacy perspective, from a security information, we do not have customer, phi indigestion at all. we agree that from a privacy, we do not have no concerns over the release of our security information. where we think that we have opportunity is that we have seen what might be coming as much a municipality focused in a very, in the center of the state, right? we have, california is a huge day. we have a lot of utility companies in thi in the state. wouldn't it be great if we could exchange information and say hey, look what i think of look what you were sent to individual we think that information is just noise. together we see it's a concerted attack against