doug stamper for a quick second. >> i was just on my phone. >> we heard cover your ears. you and your wife have an arrangement as far as when you can watch the episodes? >> we film them almost a year before it comes out when we for me i forget a lot of what happens. i had to go to london to do the press circuit and i was like i need episodes if i'm going to talk about it. they were like i will send you the first six and i watched the first four and kept going. i was like i have to stop. i stopped at four so my wife and i can watch it together. >> hard to keep things secret because you don't remember. >> that happens to me every day. >> the older i get. >> this show, how has it changed your life? >> i mean, night and day. i have been very fortunate in my career to work with incredible directors and on projects that we love. it has been a nice study little step by step climb. and with this one you take all of that and you put it into something. the momentum that you gain and then you get to be in a role of to be in. >> tell us about taboo. >> it's a limited series bbc and f

plays doug stamper, enforcer.scene from season four of house of cards. >> you sent the photo of the rebel soldier. >> that's not true. >> personal phone, off the premises. >> maybe somebody hacked my account or something. >> are you really going to keep lying to me? i could have you nothing you can prove. now threaten me again. >> michael kelly joins me. you're one of those geniuses. what i love about the series, i think it's far darker than reality. if anybody thinks this is as bad as this, i'm sorry. you bury somebody, i don't know if she's alive or not in country. this stuff, it's not that bad. do you think it is? do you think politics is this bad? >> no, thank god. i've spent enough time on the hill to know it's not that bad. tell me what's true. self-interest is true. i know members of congress who plot 20 to 30 years ahead that will be chairman of the committee. they think way ahead about self-interest. the violence part is not as direct. >> no. thank god. we always joke about beau being clairvoyant. writers

be prepared for more back stabbing and bomb shells. >> doug stamper himself joins us this morning. good to see you. >> good to see you guys again. >> when people see you, doug is such a twisted individual. do people kind of like nice to meet you -- >> yeah. i never stop smiling. there might be a quick reservation in an elevator or something. for the m t part i never stop smiling. >> nobody wants you behind them in an elevator. i have had people genuinely scared. do stamper for a quick second. >> i was just on my phone. >> we heard cover your ears. you and your wife have an arrangement as far as when you >> we film them almost a year before it comes out when we start the season every year so for me i forget a lot of what ppens. i had to go to london to do the press circuit and i was like i need episodes if i'm going to talk about it. they were like i will send you the first six and i watched the first four and kept going. i was like i have to stop. i stopped at four so my wife and i can watch it together. >> hard to keep things secret because you don't remember. >> that happens to m