he did say prior to running for lieutenant governor that if doug wallace is going to run, i won't go. i told him i'm not going to run and i ultimately repeated in 1977 by describing the office of a lowt governor is -- lieutenant governor and far more influential in the senate. didn't you say that before, yeah, because this is now. i spoke to one of his persons, minority adviser author murphy. i said, arthur, i tell you what i'm doing, i'm forming now in 1972, i think, i started the black democratic caucus, not the legislative caucus and i didn't want necessary elected officials and i wanted people in the communities, legislative leaders, community leaders or church leaders, fraternity leaders. i wanted people who could not only reach people but they had the respective and they said and i was able to finally get that done and refer to it in the book and to have 500 people to attend, you know how hard it is to get to roanoke, virginia, i didn't want the cameras to show a few people came. so after that, after we formed we started developing strength, i said to him, i told it to murphy as

he did say prior to running for lieutenant governor that if doug wallace is going to run, i won't go. i told him i'm not going to run and i ultimately repeated in 1977 by describing the office of a lowt governor is -- lieutenant governor and far more influential in the senate. didn't you say that before, yeah, because this is now. i spoke to one of his persons, minority adviser author murphy. i said, arthur, i tell you what i'm doing, i'm forming now in 1972, i think, i started the black democratic caucus, not the legislative caucus and i didn't want necessary elected officials and i wanted people in the communities, legislative leaders, community leaders or church leaders, fraternity leaders. i wanted people who could not only reach people but they had the respective and they said and i was able to finally get that done and refer to it in the book and to have 500 people to attend, you know how hard it is to get to roanoke, virginia, i didn't want the cameras to show a few people came. so after that, after we formed we started developing strength, i said to him, i told it to murphy as