release of white house tapes and stuff through the nixon administrationwh and the like, ih think douglas brinkley of it, has he changed his idealsrt of what kissinger was about, at least in the looking at the tapes? he is a lot worse than what he is portrayed in your book on kissinger? >> guest: we're always getting more material. i have listened to a lot of those tapes before i wrote that book. they were many, many of them available. i have watched the new ones as they have cometh out. there is no fundamental homelyt cow it was totally different than we thought. the tapes, you know, really are revealing because they show private conversations where kissinger didn't know he was being taped. so you see him sometimes cater to the darker side of richard nixon's personality. doug brinkley did a great job editing some of those tapes. i'm glad they're coming out. i have a friend evan thomas, who we talked about, who did the wise men with me, writing a biography of nixon based on those new tapes. i mean those tapes are weird butd for -- historians, we're talking about we used to have letters. we used to