cooperator. he's a rabble-rouser. >> yes. >> from the days, david, when i was at spartacus workers league, this is the way we played it. probably thinks spartacus is something with -- >> kirk douglas >> great book, by the way, "ragman's son." he talks about the making of that movie. >> born in abject poverty. >> how great. anyway, that's neither here nor there. >> no, it isn't, but something else we talk a lot about in addition to kirk douglas is antitrust policy, both the department of justice -- >> what kind of segue was that? >> it wasn't one. is the fact that the aggressive stance of both, of course, has mitigated the willingness of certain companies to pursue deals, to pursue mergers and acquisitions. >> okay. >> interesting data point of late. and since, really, the ftc lost that case against microsoft, we've seen a number of deals that might have been expected to be challenged by either the doj or the ftc get through. now, is it indicative, necessarily, of anything in particular? it may be a brief trend, but it's worth noting. one was this week. vmware got ftc approval of broadcom. that was somewhat unexpected. there had been some belief that they might try to step in there