douglas london, of options going forward. douglas london. great _ of options going forward.ouglasj london, great to get your insight. thank you for coming on. so what about those who remained stranded in afghanistan? among those who were left behind are a number of school children and their parents from el cajon in california. on august 18, joe biden said he would extend the deadline in order to get all american citizens out. but these people were left behind. there are efforts under way to get them out, but, as we discussed, not easy when the airport and the borders are closed. and the taliban are sending their mixed signals. we can speak to the superintendent of the school district involved in the efforts to get students home. welcome to the programme. some who these students are. what is their background was quite were they there? , , ., ~ there? the students we were talking about are students _ there? the students we were talking about are students of _ there? the students we were talking about are students of ours _ there? the students we were talking about are students

and douglas london had a 34 year career in c.i.a.'s clandestine service where he focused on afghanistan, south and central asia, the middle east and else where. he is the author of the new book "the recruiter: spying and the lost art of american intelligence." welcome to both of you, mr. rashid, mr. london, thank you very much. ahmed rashid, let me start with you. what does the naming of these individuals say to you about what the taliban has in mind for the future of afghanistan? >> wl, i think, overall, i mean, they have -- they hae not done anything what the western untries have been asking for. it's not a diverse cabinet. it's a very solidly taliban cabinet that they had chosen. the gornment has not taken on board any of the non-taliban politicians in afghanistan. they have chosen not to take any women into the cabinet for the time being. now, this is the government they've set up today. they've said that there will be additions and changes and presumably there will be a full-time government at some state. but it looks at the mmen

and douglas london had a 34 year career in the cia's clandestine service where he focused on afghanistanand central asia, the middle east and elsewhere. he is the author of the new book “the recruiter: spying and the lost art of american intelligence.” welcome to both of you. thank you very much. let me start with you, what does the naming of these individuals say to you about what the taliban has in mind for the future of afghanistan? >> i think overall, i mean, they have not done anything what the western countries havbeen asking for. it is not a diverse cabinet, it is a solidly taliban cabinet they have chosen. the government has not taken on board any of the non-taliban politicians in afghanistan, they have chosen not to take any women into the cabinet for the time being. this is a caretaker government they have set up today, and they have said they will -- there will be changes and presumably there will be a full-time government at some stage. but at the moment, it looks as though this is going to continue as we have seen so far with beating up women, demonstrators, and not tolerati