i'm joined now from washington by douglas lute, the former us ambassador to nato and a retired us armygeneral. it's great to have you on the programme, douglas. just to say, listening to what the security of defence from the us has just said, about the fact that it will move heaven and earth to help ukraine, what does that mean in your view? i think that means that conferences like secretary huston hosted today in germany, so some a0 nations, not just the 30 alleys and the nato alliance but other nations, joints to co—ordinate the supply of military weaponry, and increasingly heavy weaponry, to the ukrainians as long as it takes, so as much as it takes, as long as it takes, i think is the message coming out of secretary austin today. and is the message coming out of secretary austin today. and what do ou think secretary austin today. and what do you think rush _ secretary austin today. and what do you think rush or— secretary austin today. and what do you think rush or a's _ secretary austin today. and what do you think rush or a's response - secretary austin today. and what do you thi