. >>> an effective coalition that can defeat the islamic state terrorists, i'm joined by douglas olivant, served in both the bush and obama administrations and leader of the planning team that helicopter coordinate the 2007 iraq war surge. currently a security fellow, a former planner of what was a successful military campaign. do you think the president's strategy of air strikes and work? >> there are no plans that will work. the best you can hope for with a military plan is a plan that could work. there are plans that could work and plans that won't work. this plan could work. that's not to say there aren't all kinds of pitfalls, that there aren't 101 ways that this could go wrong but this is a solid plan of working. >> if it's going to work a lot of it depends on a coalition of sunni forces, and even ten states have agreed with a communique with the united states the language is at best fuzzy with what they're committed to do. >> it remains fuzzy and this is going to be hard. the issue is while these states realize that i.s.i.s. is a threat they're still much more nervous about iran a

almost 40 countries have joined a coalition to fight the militants and i spoke with douglas oliver formerr for iraq at the u.n. security council. colonel, once the u.s. goes on the offensive and once this strategy is in play, what's the assessment of how isis will react, how will they lash out, if you like, against the united states and against whoever else signs up for this coalition? >> well, certainly they'll try to find whatever asymmetric means they can to strike against the powers that are using air power against them. they're certainly not going to be able to shoot back at the f-15s or f-16s and they'll try to kidnap westerners and use them as bargaining chips and they may try to strike at the european capitals or homeland. >> the strategy you mention which will be in play especially in iraq is pretty clear what the strategy is there. the strategy in syria not so clear and isn't that the biggest problem when we look at this plant which was outlined by the president. >> i think we'll see this unfold in two stages. we will open the campaign in iraq and there may be some limited air s

. >> another person portrayed as a crusader, douglas olivant, who appears regularly on cnn. under the heading "in the words of the enemy" dabiq cites an article olivant wrote in may about isis's growing strength. >> well, you have to be perve e perversely honored that someone's reading you. but at the same time you're being incorporated into their propagan propaganda. we take them seriously, write about them seriously, and perversely they twist this to their recruits to say american analysts take us seriously. >> reporter: dabiq differs from another glossy inspire. that one from al qaeda has manuals about bombs and how to get them onto planes. >> this is different. this is encouraging people to come, recruit, and join the fight. >> dabiq has plenty of violent images to lure jihadists. the mutilated bodies of muslims wounded by western forces and their allies but also of isis's own victims. in its most recent issue the final section is dedicated to the beheading of james foley, defending his murder as retribution for western military campaigns in the middle east. >> another p