douglass. and you bet that the douglass is with two s's. let's get that right. this is in part of my remarks, and i probably shouldn't digress. but stephen douglass, who was lincoln's rival and a white supremacist to the bone, he was actually born with douglass, two s's. if you look at ebay and we know and then you'll see carter visits, photographs of stephen douglass prior to the 1850s. and it is always spelled with two s's. i believe he dropped the second s once another, douglass became a prominent figure on the national stage. i can't prove this, but two good enough to check. i guess i know black history month is almost over. but it's always a good time to talk about frederick douglass, a man who became famous for escaping a system of injustice rooted in racial prejudice. douglass became even more famous, in my opinion, for pointing out america's systemic justice, which he found in the ideals and institutions of the declaration of independence and the united states constitution. he came to b

douglass acknowledged. all told, douglass he did not blame him for away. it was not quite an apology, but it was close enough for douglass in return. douglass offered a defense of all his that was generous to the point of implausibility. i regarded him as i did myself. he wrote a victim of the circumstance says of birth education, law and custom. by the time this account was published in 1881, lydia child was no longer alive to read it. if she had been shirley, she would have rejoiced, in this report of reconciliation. but douglass was lucky. if we want to call it that all had offered douglass one of the things that makes reconciliation possible an admission of harm by wrongdoer. but 16 years earlier, as child's freedman's book was most former slaves confronted the opposite. far from acknowledging slavery's, their former enslavers were doing everything in their power to reinstate it. given this reality, i am somehow glad that douglass's reconciliation auld came too late for a child to use it in the freedman's book. quite simply, its absence kept her from t

douglass acknowledged. all told, douglass he did not blame him for away. it was not quite an apology, but it was close enough for douglass in return. douglass offered a defense of all his that was generous to the point of implausibility. i regarded him as i did myself. he wrote a victim of the circumstance says of birth education, law and custom. by the time this account was published in 1881, lydia child was no longer alive to read it. if she had been shirley, she would have rejoiced, in this report of reconciliation. but douglass was lucky. if we want to call it that all had offered douglass one of the things that makes reconciliation possible an admission of harm by wrongdoer. but 16 years earlier, as child's freedman's book was most former slaves confronted the opposite. far from acknowledging slavery's, their former enslavers were doing everything in their power to reinstate it. given this reality, i am somehow glad that douglass's reconciliation auld came too late for a child to use it in the freedman's book. quite simply, its absence kept her from t

in fact, douglass and auld did meet again. in his last autobiography douglass gives an account ofhe e meetingwa that was all child cod have wished for. he first recounts everything auld had done to him. it is a long list. he then admits that his own fame had made his otherwise unremarkable life, right by the writings made his name and deeds familiar to the world in or mac languages, douglass acknowledged. auld told douglass he did not blame him foras running away. it was notot quite an apology bt it was close enough for douglass. in return douglass offered a defense of auld behavior that was generous to the point of impossibility. i i regarded as it did myself, e wrote, a victim of the circumstances of birth, education, law and custom. by the time this account was published in 1881, lydia maria child was no longer alive to read it. if she had been, surely she would have rejoiced in this supportiveon reconciliation. but douglass was lucky if we want to call it that. auld had offered douglass one of the things that makes reconci

frederick douglass is right. you know, we do need to turn this into a war against slavery if we're going to win it. and this is what we want anyway. lincoln is anti slavery. the republicans hold the majority in congress. they're anti-slavery in different kinds of ways. so the question is, why didn't they do that? 1861. what do you think, riley? think everyone there was, especially in the union, they wanting to make this really a war about emancipation. they were wanting more along the lines of what lincoln's vision was and to preserve the union, if they had gone to war specifically to end slavery at that time, there might not have been, i guess you can say the word is like passion, like patriotism and willingness of the soldiers to to fight. yeah. so, yeah. so lincoln sets the tone from the top. and, you know, you've read his inaugural address from 1861 in march where he says, you know, this isn't a war. that's going to end slavery. i don't think the president has the authority to actually do that. so he says tha

frederick douglass says. september 1861 newspaper article cast off the millstone and i think he gives us some great insights into how abolitionists made that argument that the union war effort really needed to become a war against slavery. so based on your reading of that article, what would you say? how how does douglass assess the union war goals? what does he think union war goals are in 1861? how effective are any effective does he think they might be. sort of douglass versus us is that the union's goals are kind of like half measures, like just reunify the union without abolition would just result in another war. who knows how far down the road. and the analogy of the millstone is that as long as slavery exists anywhere in the union, it's as if you're dangling a heavy burden off of the union's neck. and until that's gone away, the problem will never truly be solved. yeah, yeah. nicely said. i think that captures it really well. he's talking about, you know, quite rightly talking about the union walk. all

douglass ante un jurado.eguida hablamos del aumento en las hospitalizaciones por enfermedades que tienen que ver con las vías respiratorias. le diremos cómo protegerse y ante qué síntomas estar alerta. además, la madre de savannah soto, la joven embarazada encontrada sin vida, ha expresado su reacción tras conocerse el arresto de 2 personas vinculadas con el asesinato de su hija y en palco deportivo. >> atención, porque el béisbol de oakland es nuevamente noticia y tiene que ver con el equipo de siempre y el nuevo. el regreso, todos los detalles. >> y si usted está buscando un plan en familia para este fin de semana, ya casi se llega el día en que hay que visitar el children's discovery museum en san josé, que va a celebrar la llegada de los reyes magos. es el 6 de enero. habrá actividades para toda lfa de 09:3a milia0 rebotando de doctor en doctor. como un balón. ¿mandaron mis exámenes de laboratorío? ¿o los tenía que mandar yo? luego viene el papeleo, las facturas, el... cuando la cobertura y el cuidado de

note douglass replied it was not.he store of an interview between us is a newspaper story foray which i am in no way responsible he wrote spirit any such meeting could not fail to be awkward he continued. but then he seems to reconsider. still, i should bem, glad to see him especially if i could do so simply by meeting him halfway he wrote. then again maybe not. i do not he continued fancy at making a journey to see a man who gave me so many reasons for wishing the greatest distance between us. yet again he reconsidered. i learned from my sister who still lives near master thomas he says he would be glad to see me he wrote. then came an extraordinary promise he has about to say so to me by letter and considering his age and forgetting hisas pat i will make him a visit. what is going on in this letter? what had child written to prompt suchy vacillation by one of america's most asserted intellectuals? we will never know but here's my guess. child had asked him if she could assure her readers newly emancipated america's

she competed remotely and performed part of douglass speech, the race problem.'s been invited to deliver her speech in washington at the frederick douglass birthday celebration next month. what an honor and well deserved. >> awesome. >> so poised, she said. >> i know she isn't she sweet? all right, let's get a check on our weather. >> abc seven news meteorologist sandhya patel is back. sandy. yeah. >> enjoy this break. while we have it, because we have more rain coming our way. so dan and i do want to talk about our rainy season, because i know people are saying, hey, we've had rain, we've had rain every few days. what's going on? are we going to be in for a wet winter with a strong el nino? well, let's just do a quick comparison. last year this is 2023, rainy season. at this point, sfo was double the amount that we're at right now. we're at 79% of average at sfo. last year it was 160% of average. remember there were atmospheric rivers after atmospheric rivers. so oakland was at 188 right now 49 san jose currently stands at 88% of average. now last year was 146.

she competed remotely and performed part of douglass speech, the race problem.he's been invited to deliver her speech in washington at the frederick douglass birthday celebration next month. what an honor and well deserved. >> awesome. >> so poised, she said. >> i know she isn't she sweet? all right, let's get a check on our weather. >> abc seven news meteorologist sandhya patel is back. sandy. yeah. >> enjoy this break. while we have it, because we have more rain coming our way. so dan and i do want to talk about our rainy season, because i know people are saying, hey, we've had rain, we've had rain every few days. what's going on? are we going to be in for a wet winter with a strong el nino? well, let's just do a quick comparison. last year this is 2023, rainy season. at this point, sfo was double the amount that we're at right now. we're at 79% of average at sfo. last year it was 160% of average. remember there were atmospheric rivers after atmospheric rivers. so oakland was at 188 right now 49 san jose currently stands at 88% of average. now last year was 14

and he quotes frederick douglass here education means emancipation.and he he believes that misconstruing. so what happens just really quick? the court upholds a voucher program where you can use vouchers for community schools, magnet schools, private schools and and other religious schools. and that's the hook that the union others challenge it on is believe that using it for catholic schools and schools violates establishment clause just. thomas points out in a number of ways in a writing how it would contorting the establishment clause say a parent's choice is governed by that in really simple terms. and what i mean by that is the voucher was such that the money the voucher went to the parents to use as they saw fit. and one other thing i should mention is, they could also choose to get a voucher not send their kids out of public schools, but use it for tutoring. so the program was aimed to really the educational opportunity cities for cleveland kids and give their parent a say and in fact they created a twitter page for the book. it's called the pe

springfield, 1857, replying dred scott and douglass.d he wrote elsewhere that was what would make the 4th of july something more than just as he wrote in a letter a day burning firecrackers. so he presumed that the rhythm democratic politics would generate a form of tyranny and despotism, corruption, and that we would need efforts of reform. and he hoped that the declaration, with its spiritedness, would help to provoke that reform. now, of course, there's a worry that the declaration inspires constant dissension isn't it a recipe for constant dissatisfaction? won't it generate perpetual dissensions and contests as the tories, jonathan and the butcher wrote leading up to the revolution, but again, there's a rhythm here that presumed in lock and in the declaration, and the rhythm assumes we tend to stay, in our old forms, we tend to pile up the satisfactions until a long train abuses mounts. that is, the people tend to be conservative and that. as jefferson in the declaration means that mankind more disposed to suffer, while evils suffer

by quoting douglass to start. i mean, you know, it.ddit can certainly be a pseudo of of terrible things, believe me. there were terrible things being printed and. newspapers throughout the american south and the american north in the day of product. and yet he that free speech is the dread of tyrants that it was the most important tool in the toolbox of abolitionists because it allowed slaves to say things. it also allowed the opponents of slavery to make their case at a time when that was very unpopular. and so more broadly, i think that the way in which people for free speech often suffers from uh, a which is to focus on the great things that come from free speech. and i believe that great things do come from free speech. so when you read john stuart mill's on liberty chapter two, it's a beautiful account of the advantages of free speech or the fact that so many times in human history in human history of a majority opinion was badly wrong, including in america. in the first half of the 19th century and would not be naive idea of a ma

douglass, you're paraphrasing that was said if a black man where i wish i had the quote, i don't it but all a racist has to see yeah is name of a black man wearing know on bearing arms you know fighting for that will end racism so why in the world did he think this would be different particularly under one of the most racist president who reince who did segregation in federal offices in washington dc and why would dubois let's see. how old is he in 19 eight. he's between 1868. 50, 50 years old. 51. the last captain was 50 years old. you ran into what was on dubois mind. why did he want to be a captain of harvard? he wasn't. no, it wasn't wasn't like. so there's a there's a few things. dubois and woodrow, really fascinating relationship in some ways. kindred spirits and certainly they come from very backgrounds, very different trajectories. but they were both kind of molded in a moment in the intellectual milieu where democracy was valued. they were both democratic thinkers from their own unique perspectives. they both believed democracy as not just a form of government, but as an ideal

and they say, douglass, we're out of here. we have the same right as every other person to access to this wealth. and we got to get out of here because of the fugitive law. douglass says to them. okay. and he picks a few of them include. one of the men import figure in california history, mifflin, worcester, gibbs. he says. gibbs okay, you can go with my blessing, but travel with me for a summer. so that you learn how to be an organizer and an order and. they see it all. they see the burned churches. they see the violence. and gibbs comes out here and becomes one of the leaders of free black people in calif. and he meets up with other free black people who have come out here to they don't expect to find enslaved blacks in california. they do not expect to find enslaved black in california, in the mines or in the streets of san francisco. and it's the constitution was against it. well sort of it's dicey because california is quickly writes a constitution. so it can join the united states and it's supposed to enter as a free sta

selma competed remotely and perform part of douglass speech. the race problem.he's been invited to deliver her speech in washington, d.c. at the frederick douglass birthday celebration, which is next month . congrats. yes, congratulations and a wonderful honor for our abc colleague, mark consuelos. >> the actor, producer and talk show host is featured on the cover of diversity. com magazine and the profile piece, mark describes how he got into acting by happenstance and why it's so important to him that latinos and diversity are represented in the entertainment industry. he also spoke about the honor of being named grand marshal and the los angeles mexican independence parade, telling the magazine, quote, what a gift it was. i got to go to the mexican consulate and meet all the people that were responsible for the parade. that was really great, and i got to honor my father, who came to this country when he was a teenager from mexico. so we posted a link to the article on our website, abc seven news.com. and of course you can watch live with kelly and mark weekda

the program recognizes the principle of frederick douglass. it's easier to build a child than to repair a man. the role models -- nor any other of my brothers right there. we want prevention, not detention. it will interrupt the school to prison pipeline and provide success. many of us don't have available role models at home. we need men who stepped up over the decades to guide us from childhood to manhood. in most cases that means a college education for men who never achieved -- never dreamed that it was for us. those who stand before you in the nation's capital are members of the class of 2024. i in a senior at the senior high school. the group here has benefited from the expansion of the miami-dade of public schools to duvall county public schools in jacksonville, florida. as the program expands, we are recipients that through mentoring, minority boys can graduate high school, go to trade school or the military. in general, be good citizens. it is prevention and mentoring that can have the greatest impact in the ongoing crisis in the live

frederick douglass granted child permission to tell his story however she saw fit. she rewrote some of the biographical sketches of black heroes like phyllis wheatley that she had included in her appeal 30 years ago. recasting them in easier language for early readers. she also included stories that africans resisting the slave trade and of fugitive slaves daring escapes. to assure her readers that they had other white allies, she included authors like garrison and john greenlee. but perhaps most important, she quoted frederick douglass's eloquent outrage, the poet francis ellen watkins harbor lyrical recitations and the agonized poetry of an enslaved man named mingo to his wife before bloodhounds tore him apart as he tried to flee. black americans would make clear, had recognized the atrocities done to them, articulated them and fought them, they had not been helpless or submissive or ignorant. in the table of contents, child made their authors, schmitz visible by putting asterisks next to their name. compared to other primers for similar purposes, child was once a

he actually helped frederick douglass make his way to new bedford. he led a petition drive to protest the treatment of black sailors in the american south and in cuba. and he sent that petition to the u.s. congress, the person or the group that wrote the most petitions were black bostonians, william cornell and others. they're routinely writing petition after petition after petition, not just about the treatment of black sailors. i mean, they were petitioning everything the state of massachusetts ought to integrate schools. they had to allow interracial marriage. they had to expand, extend the franchise. they should allow black men to join the military. there were petitioning everything all the time. and one of the things that they petitioned was for the protection of black sailors. and it's that last part that's really fascinating, because all those other things that the black bostonians petitioned for, they were petitioning for state rights, not like the whites of states, but the rights that you are that you were given through the state. right. so

of course, he had people like frederick douglass hammering at him even in these earlier months saying, you know, this is a war about slavery. and he was like, yeah, i know, but you know, there are the concerns that have i want to maintain the survival of the country at this time. so lincoln, though, he recognized the slavery was at the heart of the civil war, and this constitutional debate states rights. he decided to tread carefully and remain and remain silent for the immediate moment. however, butler knew this would transform the war. and he wrote about this even some of his letters. he also had hoped that it would continue to just be men coming to the fore. but he was mistake taken because the next day there were three people who arrived from york county. and then the following there were about eight people who arrived from gloucester. and then the next day there were tens of people. then the next day there were hundreds. and then pretty soon there was flood of people arriving, all with the same idea. and i just want to pause here for a minute to say, when i first was reading abou

douglass below believed strongl in the power of portrait. he says it is evident that the great cheapns and universal of pictures must exert a powerful, though silent influence upon the ideas and sentiment of present and future. he believed very strongly in this power of portrait to represent a person, as a person rather than a caricature for its powerful currency. that several examples i've shown you and also to shape a nation's beliefs and efforts. it offered not only to the end individual but to the nation a legacy. the portrait as a new power here impacts the war and the aftermath of it. for the soldier, the family, the home and the nation. thank you. i'll take any questions. should i call on people or. oh, okay, sir. hi. a couple of months ago i had another another museum. they claimed that world war one was the first great use for soldiers photography because at that time that was first time photography was according to what they maintained, could go into the field and actually take pictures with a backdrop in the field. what would be y

>> selma j-3 white entered the national frederick douglass oratorical contest, put on by the nationalvice by submitting a video of her reciting an excerpt from the race problem. the true problem is not the, but the nation. and this year, first place in her age group goes to selma. i love saying this speech because you got to be on stage and also the prizes. practice makes perfect. and selma is not opposed to spending hours rehearsing, including hand gestures for emphasis. >> i practiced with my parents every day, okay? and they give me suggestions on how to make it better. even her name carries historical weight, so selma means peace and serves as a reminder of the 1965 civil rights marches in alabama. >> the selma to montgomery marches were something that was historically significant, that it was about, and she was. she was born in 2017, and a lot of what was on her mind was democracy, justice, the right to vote. >> now she's preparing for the next speech in the school districts. doctor martin luther king junior oratorical fest, just in time for mlk day. adam moment when 22 million n

abraham lincoln and frederick douglass and susan b anthony.ou know how they did that question what we have to remember this, it is the key. their success was grounded in our nations creed that we just spoke about they reminded their fellow americans about our founding principles and as lincoln said in his famous first inaugural the better angels of our nature we should do the same thing today. my friends let's be encourage and hope we can join together make this great difference i believe that we can. we can stand with every woman for every child and we can truly build a culture that cherishes and protects life. god bless you thanks for braving the weather. [cheering] >> thank you speaker johnson your passion for protecting mom protecting mom and baby is inspiring. joining me now courageous pro-life members of united states congress to stand for life and as you heard just yesterday voted for life. [cheering] i like to take a moment to recognize and thank each one of them for their courage and commitment to the inherent dignity of the human per

frederick douglass granted permission to tell his story however she saw fit. phyllis wheatley that she had included in her appeal 30 years ago recasting them in easier language for early readers. she also included stories of africans resisting slave trade and fugitive slaves during escapes to assure that her readers had other white allies and she included authors like garrison and john greenlee. perhaps most important, she quoted frederick douglass's eloquent outrage, poet and lyrical exhortations and agonized poetry of an enslaved man written to his wife before bloodhounds tore him apart as he tried to flee. black americans would make clear and had recognized the atrocities done to them, articulate them and fought them . they had not been helpless or submissive or ignorant. in the table of contents, child made black authors accomplishments visible by putting in asterix next to each of their names. compared with other primers created for similar purposes, child's anthology was once again progressive. i contrast, other readers made no effort to cultivate pride

madison and in the vice memo as well as douglass even excuse me lincoln even when arguing was with douglassbout popular sovereignty that the question was often the ability of national majorities to decide national issues rather than local majorities to decide national issues. so here's what lincoln says about rule in the first inaugural. he says a majority held in restraint by constitutional checks and limitations and always changing easily early. and this is key with deliberate changes of popular opinions and sentiments is only true sovereign of a free people. lincoln continues to say that on any question over which the national government has jurisdiction majorities of minorities. naturally. then he says this if the majority will not me, that may have been for it. it is the minority will not acquiesce. the majority must or the government must cease. there is no other alternative for continuing the government is acquiescence on one side or the other. the declaration says, i think something remarkably similar or if it is read in full to. see why i want to return briefly to the theorists wid

more than a decade and billions are being invested in manufacturing and cleanup in the frederick douglass tunnel which is expected to create 30,000 jobs, a new workforce hub is already generating commitments to train and place hundreds of baltimore residents and apprenticeships that will lead to good paying jobs. and also create an attractive workforce for new investors. the city also designated a tech hub growing its ai biotechnology sector to lead in predictive healthcare. to develop their skills and makh their home and raise families. they came to office to invest in all of america to leave no community behind. with the fact let's turn it to our discussion. [applause] thank you for those thoughtful remarks. extremely important topics that we are addressing today and we are happy to dig in and you can see lots of people are interested in this. i want to start with your views on what is distinctive about the policy in light of as you detailed what exactly does the approach bring to the table and what is distinctive about them besides the logic they focus on place when others don't? >> wh

from frederick douglass, who preached about the abolition of slavery to martin luther king jr. whose sermons pays the way for the civil rights movement. it galvanized racial progress and it was the democratic party that turned into a campaign stop. no one received a warmer welcome than bill clinton. >> mr. president. these are your people. the president of the united states. >> if you haven't had lindsay's barbecue, you haven't had barbecue. the first black president was followed by the first half black president who laid down harmony. >> "amazing grace," how sweet the sound. >> jesse: hilary hit the circuit but there was something off. >> i don't feel tired. i have come too far from where i started from. nobody told me that the road would be easy. i don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. >> jesse: the democratic party have been filling black churches up for decades. the president walked into a black church in charleston and proclaimed he started the civil rights movement. >> i have spent more time here than most people i know black or white have spent in that church

we call it freedom and progress inspired by a speech frederick douglass gave in 1870. he was asked by a bunch of newly freed slaves, what should we do? should we only vote for republicans? should we feel free to vote for democrats when we want to? frederick douglass said, look, you should vote your conscience but -- because that is what we fought for. we fought for people to be able to vote for whichever party they want to. i will always be a member of the party of freedom and progress, he now at happened to the republican party that freed the slaves? used to be that the republican party got the majority of the black vote and then when fdr was elected with the new deal, he attracted the majoty of the black vote because there were a lot of people who cannot get jobs and so the government started to give people certain kinds of assistance. and then in 1964, was opposed the rights act of 1964 everyone shares we are not judged by the content of our skinthere hasn't been a competition for the black vote. they care about freedom and progress. of course, politics changes over

he served on and chaired the awards committee of the frederick douglass book prize given by the guilderrman center, a study of abolition at yale university. is a member of the advisory council of scholars for the us capital historical society. 's articles, book reviews and op-eds have appeared regularly in national magazines and newspapers in the new york times, wall street journal and los angeles times. in earlier years as a journalist he reported extensively on politics, economic issues, from asia, the middle east, europe, and africa and worked for a time at the united nations. is a genuine new yorker who did his undergraduate and graduate degrees at city college of new york and columbia university and although he has lived and worked all around the world, he and his wife jean currently reside on capitol hill in washington dc. missus fergus bordewich is an advisor to national and international philanthropy and democratic governments, she is with us today and you can also meet and visit with her at the signing event after our our. so i think for starters how about opening this session

why in the world did he think that participation in the war just like frederick douglass douglasarguedso many other k people only we show our patients. >> the letters of the u.s. on your chest for. >> that is right that's paraphrasing. douglas said i wish i had the quote i don't have it. but all races test to see is the name of a black man wearing -- bearing arms and fighting for liberty and racism. so one of the world that he think this would be different? particularly under one of the most racist presidents who reinstituted segregation and in federal offices and washington d.c.? and why it would do voice, how old is he? he's born 1860. >> is 50 yearsld old when his lt captain who is 50 years old that you run into? what was on his mind? why did he want to be a captain? a harvard phd wasn't enough. [laughter] there's a few things there. they are really fascinating relationship. some ways kindred spirits. but with a come from very difft trajectories they were both molded and eight moment where democracy was valued. they're both democratic thinkers some their own unique perspectives.el t

douglass from the environment auen . :, ~ douglass from the environment auen . . ~' douglass from theuction in their national insurance contributions from tomorrow, as a government pledge to cut the tax comes into force. peter is here to explain what's happening. there is a lot of detail to get through here, i think. absolutely and as ever _ through here, i think. absolutely and as ever the _ through here, i think. absolutely and as ever the devil _ through here, i think. absolutely and as ever the devil is - through here, i think. absolutely and as ever the devil is in - through here, i think. absolutely and as ever the devil is in the - and as ever the devil is in the detail stop people should see the impact on their payslips but the big question is when you zoom out, and at the tax burden, that is a bit more complicated. first let's just have a recap on exactly what national insurance is. forworkers, national insurance, like income tax, is a deduction from your salary. but, unlike income tax, it is only paid on your wages if you are in work. it is also paid by employers and the sel

he served on and chewed the awards committee of the frederick douglass book prize given by the gilder lehrman center for the study of slavery resistance and abolition at yale university. as a member of the advisory council scholars of u.s. capitol historical society. his articles and book reviews and op-eds appear in national magazines and newspapers from the "new york times" and "wall street journal" to the "l.a. times." in earlier years as a journalist he reported extensively on politics economice issues and culture from asia, the middle east europe and africa, and worked for a time even at the united nations. he's a genuine new yorker did his undergraduate and graduate degrees at city college of new york and at columbia university and although he's lived and worked actually all around the world, he and his wife currently reside on capitol hill in washington, d.c. she is a playwright and an advisor to the national and international political these undemocratic governments. she's with us today and you can also meet and visit with her at the signing tent after hour or 50 minutes here

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martin luther king jr and lyndon johnson have really the and we can talk about frederick douglass and abraham lincoln. they meet up three times during the war and after. but they have the most important relationship of any president and social movement leader in american history. and what i mean by that is what so interesting, a social leader is not a president. that's what and that's you know, when barack obama got elected in 2008. i think a lot of people, young people, especially, but some some not so young, mistook obama. he he at times spoke in the cadence of a social movement leader. i know. i get it. but the president is the president is the commander in chief. and so lyndon johnson and martin luther king jr, they are both in ways coequal statesmen to show you how important king is the same year that john f kennedy was assassinated time magazine's man of the year. person of the year is martin luther king jr in 1963. this is the same year. and so you you'd have to say, well, my goodness, what how is that possible? but if you look at the of 63 martin luther king jr become a kind o

he won the pulitzer prize in history for his book, frederick douglass, profit of freedom.everal other books including race and reunion in the civil war, in america memory. and eric phoner joins us, columbia university history professor, when the pulitzer prize choice for his books, reconstruction, americans unfinished revolution and the fiery trial. and american slavery. thank you both for joining this discussion tonight. professor foner, let me begin with you, this case is going to the supreme court. we all watched the supreme court justices and their courts eagerly play amateur's story in, one place with these questions. when they dig into the 14th amendment, section three, what should they find? >> i think as a judge littig says, the language is clear. any person who took an oath of office into the united states and then engaged in insurrection or rebellion is disqualified from office, all times, the president and all the way down. i think they will find that this was put into the constitution in order to prevent ex confederates from gaining power again after the civil