so we'll see trains and if this train had derailed 30 miles earlier, it would have been in downtown charleston. wirnal's -- west virginia's capital. let's have a look at the map. when you look at it, you see they go through chicago, minnesota, cleveland, philadelphia. you have to worry about what could happen if a derailment happened. >> absolutely, that's something we have to consider. keep in mind a lot of studies grew up around the railroad and part of the american success story. that being said we transit through the middle of a hot of cities. my agency took a different stance. we have to figure out how to keep trains from derailing, and that is a piece that has not got a lot of thought by the transportation det thus far. >> the train cars were improved versions. that didn't seem to have helped in this case. >> one ert -- other issue is where and when the trains go is secret. and they can be vulnerable to terrorism. how big a threat is that? >> i don't think it's a huge threat. but first responders and local governments are aware of trains coming through their territories, and they are bri

i keep bringing the conversation back to charleston, you are struck by the fact that in downtown charlestonfor example you can go into a restaurant, and there aren't have many black people, and they are working in the service industry. because. >> othe islands are now home to these now home to these wonder f these beautiful opulent tourist destinations and areas that are served for very wealthy people, it is tragic, it's loaded, it is a complex story. >> it is a complex -- it is a complex story, i want to get back to victoria, for a moment, though, in 2006 congress passed an act, that allocated $10 million over ten years to preserve historical sites is it possible to preserve a culture, though and not preserve it's people along with it? >> well that's the very thing that the culture heritage corridor commissioners that's what that called for is the first of it's kind that speaks to preserving the people most things like that would speak to land. or a site, or a building but this speaks to the people and it does help quite a bit especially with the landisch shoes, education, making sure ther