you're artist, that doesn't mean you surrender your rights as a citizen and if you have a yourself, doxpressyou're compelled to. you don't have to but for me been times i was compelled to. charlie: some say these are the people showing up at town meetings and expressing their sharply taylorry swift -- conor: yeah, we need -- we need everyone's opinions but more than anything right now the to me is the lack of agreement on reality. like there's no agreement. on facts.nd conor: yes, like empirical longer important. it blows my mind, how can you scienceregard for and -- yeah, just facts. and now anything goes so we're in this mist of like i misunderstandings. charlie: what represents that album? this conor: song-wise, i don't know. i think it's layered through there. my songs, they'll kind of be like simultaneously have some, ialso don't know political or social them kind aspect to of interwoven. i've written a few songs that overtly political, more like this is a commercial for the way i feel. of writingrite kind incorporates both of those -- the personal and the world view together because i