dr bill frankland, welcome to hardtalk. what took you into the world of medicine? because you said something very interesting. you said that one reason you chose to be a doctor, even though your parents had no tradition in medicine, was because you've always taken a great interest in people. yes. is that still true today? that's very true. i was — when i would see ill patients, to me, that was a patient with an illness, which had to be helped in some way. but whether — like my most grateful patient, i said it doesn't matter whether your head is a slate, i treat you as a patient, and i hope you follow my advice. so you chose your career, you went to oxford, you trained as a doctor. and then, still in your 20s, the second world war broke out, and on the eve of the war, before the war had actually been declared, i believe you made the decision to sign up. it seems you were eager to go to war. why? no, i thought it was my place, and in fact i'm very pro—british, and so on. so i thought i might be called up, and i was going to b