joins me now from new york city dr gainer welcome. great great to be with you thank you so much for joining us tonight i'm curious what drew you into the work with integrative on college integrative cancer therapies to begin with how did you get into this well i was trained. in very traditional allopathy medicine i went to one of the best medical schools in the contrary i did my medical residency at cornell medical center i did my fellowship at cornell medical center i was chief medical resident at cornell but as part of my fellowship i was also at rockefeller university and studying how different genes could literally be turned on and off and those genes were responsible for either preventing or leading to cancer and i was fascinated about the study of what's called nutrient gene interactions so everybody realizes that they're born with the genes they're born with but most people assume falsely those genes are their destiny there's really nothing they can do about it the fact of the matter is you're controlling your gene expression b