now at amazon and forgive them their debts this is a masterpiece written by the master himself dr michael hudson welcome back to the guys report thank you have me back i've been waiting for this book for a while this is i see all the people the back there david graber and purdah for steve kean paul craig roberts are all raving about this and it's really a much needed book and especially in the holiday season you know let's talk i want to talk about chapter two here jesus is first sermon and the tradition of debt amnesty in the first reported sermon jesus delivered upon returning to his native nazareth. to school of zion and announce his mission to restore the year of our lord now until recently the meaning of this phrase was not recognized as referring officially to the jew believe year but breakthroughs in q form research and a key to the. come ron's scroll provide a direct link to that tradition this linkage provides the basis for understanding how early christianity emerged in an epoch so impoverished by debt and the threat of bondage that it was called the end times so now you've been doing

welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser time now to continue our conversation with dr michael hudson his new book is coaled and forgive them their debts and the financial times is already damed it one of the books of the year so congratulations it looks like you know i've been reading all of your books for years now and this one looks like it's going to really stand out and be a runaway success and it's about time people started learning of some of these economics and one of the comments there from paul craig roberts former undersecretary of u.s. treasury in the reagan said basically that readers often ask how they can learn economics my answer is to spend many hours with hudson's books you'll understand economics better than any nobel prize when it caught economists so let's talk about those nobel prize winning economist for a second like paul krugman nouriel roubini and others they seem like they are bad man they seem like they're house. economists they perform a function for that neo liberal elite those bankers elite they push forward the debt is ok for them they never seen a debt

dr. michael pitts barry, for the strategy at the hudson institute, the author of the book the 100 year marathon, china secret strategy to replace america at the global superpower, and steve hilton, host of the next revolution, welcome to both of you, dr. pills very, let me start with you, your take on the story and how similar is it? >> the thing that you know is that he did not have a green card, he did not have a wife in the united states, but other big difference is that it is one thing if it is saudi arabia, something else that happens to the world's second-largest economy, and still an enormous amount of goodwill towards china and our press and academic circles, so i do not expect the outcry to be as great about mr. lu. it should be greater, but it will not be as great as with khashoggi who was an employee of "the washington post." the great dream that a few people, donald trump being one, myself is another, writing books saying that this would not happen. we lost the mainstream still is pro-china. so i have been pessimistic about it. >> martha: you think about the fact that there is a lot