i did measure the distance is to the dr requestor's home is here. these are intake valves in the exhaust system events here. so this is 30 feet. so this i am taking from -- that is west. from the east of the roof. this is taken from standing in front of the dr requestor's window. this is an average distance, 30 feet. and the front of the property at folsom looking back. this is from the back of the property at brush place looking for. commissioner sugaya: thank you. i am thinking that i am not enamored with this point is, by the way. i think it is a real position. there are enough residential developments around at that you can call an excuse, but i do not think that bmw fans anything exterior, does it? >> i believe they do. i did consult them as i was walking the neighborhood to see if a spray booth exists that does not bend externally, and it does not. >> bmw vents externally with a similar situation? >> yes. i believe so. it did not come up here but there is a huge roof and closed mechanical venting system. >> if there were two event -- to vent i

commissioner sugaya: the dr requestor ticket to the board of appeals? >> it was a little complicated. there was a permit which we found from the 1970's at that time. they may have exceeded the scope of their 1970's permit and that is what went before the board of appeals who then ruled that what was existing as of today. was legally existing. >> thank you. for the project architect. this has not got anything to do with planning but i am curious. on the plans i have before me, on the lower floor, the first floor. is this the floor that the grandparents will be occupying? >> yes. the bathroom only has a toilet and sink. i am curious. >> good question. the entire bathroom is a shower. the floor/ slopes to a drain. there is access to a shower. >> thank you. president olague: commissioner moore? vice president miguel: -- commissioner moore: large homes are suitable to be subdivided. i strongly am in support and this is an innovative model. contrary to the project we heard a few minutes ago where to retired people wanted to build 2000 square feet for themselv

and are there additional speakers in support of the dr requestor? >> only in rebuttal. president olague: seeing none, project sponsor. >> madam chairman, members of the commission, i represent the people wanting to build the house here. we have a well thought out, sensitively designed project, in character with the alley. it needs planning requirements, goes well beyond presidential guidelines, and has support of the planning department. it is lower, narrower, and less deep than zoning permits, with yard space consistent with surrounding buildings. we have considered the requests of surrounding neighbors, as stated in their memorandum which supported demolishing the existing building. their biggest concern was height, related to shuttling, when dynamics, and the -- shadowing, wind dynamics, and the height. we have the same size as the no. 2 on the street, and it skillet the neighbors. we do not show the windows -- shadow the windows to the north of us. we do not shadow windows in buildings across the street until late in the day. our next-door neighbor to the north requ

the dr requestor has concerns. he is concerned about the construction limiting driveway access. this is under the jurisdiction of the departments of parking and traffic and public works. these departments must approve any plan to stage construction from this project on the public right of way. there is no parking lot on mccormick street. the preliminary indication is staging would have to occur elsewhere. the department recommends the commission not take discretionary review of either permit and approve the demolition and new construction as submitted. the old building is not a historic resources and is not sound. the new building is consistent with the character of the neighborhood. i would be happy to answer any questions. vice president miguel: thank you. >> thank you for hearing us. my name is betsy. i lived at no. 4 mccormick. we live in this house. >> we need you to speak into the microphone. >> we lived at no. 4 mccormick, right there. your documents recommend against the discretionary review. this is a tall one story building. in fact, it is a short two-story building. t