is a time they get taxed like a business as well joining me now to offer her take on this is dr carol swain professor of political science and law at vanderbilt university and author of the book be the people a call to reclaim america's faith and promise dr swain welcome back to the program like tom are you i am very well i hope you are too. so many churches are making millions tens of millions of dollars in fact so many of you have so many pastors who are you know making way way more than the average worker. why this. seriously you know you don't think that mega churches with multi-million dollar budgets and pastors making four or five hundred thousand dollars salaries are real i don't think there's no longer there is a mega churches in most cities but the average church you know the pastor is not making millions of dollars nor do i believe they are preaching from the pulpit telling their congregants who to vote for but i have noticed that there are more pastors now trying to instruct their congregation about biblical principles and telling them that they're responsible for that and that t