dr. abaddi. i'm with iraq an american center. i think that you made clear today in your presentation what we really have here is a battle of ideas at the end of the day. i fear that there's a certain skepticism both in the united states and in europe about the prospects of winning this battle of ideas, in part because i think it's not very visible to people here in the u.s. or in europe. what is that people in the muslim world are doing themselves to take on this battle of ideas. the few share that point of view, what do you think can be done to provide some encouragement to people in the u.s. and in europe that indeed you are tackling this battle of ideas at home? >> simply say not an invitation to anyone or decide to come by and see and maybe give some piece of advice. but talking ideas, it is definitely based on training, on time investment, and money investment and also engineering of the approaches. it as you cannot conduct a reflection on a problem that will take for me as an individual 250

dr. abaddi:.i work with common ground and we partner with you and morocco and very much share the perspective that you are bringing today. when we use this word counter narrative, we are often mistaking it for a narrative that is trying to demonize the other side. that is what is so refreshing with what you are saying, that it is about attracting the people and trying to respond to real need for dignity and unity etc. my question is, how can we continue this effective work in a context where other actors acting in the same environment are choosing to use violent or kinetic force and actually further demonizing and inadvertently contributing to the narrative that attracts more people to these groups? how do we continue and ensure there is effectiveness in what we are doing to address these causes juxtaposed with other actors that are using violent force? dr. abaddi: thank you. success has a tremendously delicious taste. once you taste it, we get addicted to it. with such mega initiatives, we defini