dr. abdullah back at this table. welcome. is it going from bad to worse? dr. dullah: i wouldn't call it that. the recent developments -- it is an issue that should be addressed and hopefully will be. i believe that it is a temporary gain and the taliban. charlie: why is that happening? dr. abdullah: afghanistan security forces have shouldered all of the responsibility for security from previously 140,000 americans in an international plans. that transition took place very quickly. and then the military security transition, the political transition, coincided, with the elections which was contentious. in the period between 2012 and 2014, taliban strategy was to survive and it was hoping that once the withdrawal completes itself, then they could come back in a big way. at the end of 2014, and the beginning of 2015, they looked for a final victory. in the past 12 months, they have made lots of efforts, lots of attempts. but they have failed. recently this has happened at , this moment the focus is to get it back and liberate the people. how it happens, whether it

dr. abdullah: they had to know. charlie: what does that say about them? dr. abdullah: if there is one afghanistan or the misadventures of these terrorist terrorism asusing a means of achieving foreign policy does not work. it has not worked for any state. the reason i am so sure about it , first, it is a lesson from history, but second, these will turngroups against those states. groups that pakistan have created are now fighting against pakistan, which were created for other purposes. the minute they find their opportunity, they turn against states. it is important for the states extremists, these radical, nonstate actors to use these opportunities for short-term gains, which look , but anyone in that position is in a losing position. charlie: you came to the u.n. and called on international partners to realize the gravity of the situation and use any effective means to support our aspirations for a durable confidence building process leading to talks with willing taliban and other armed opposition groups. what has been the response? charlie: that was the cal

dr. abdullah have been in a for about a year now. what i do marks to the get for running the trains on time, water, electricity, all the things you expect of government services and what does that tell us about the conversation that is after that's a fragile government, that is likely to not be able to be resilient? can you talk to us about those issues speak was i think if you're in kabul and for the most part you would give them probably a ct, although with high profile attacks inside of kabul that would be loaded i think if you're on the outskirts your in a faraway province, your grade would be much lower because they haven't seen some of the covers they need at the level. they have been a national government on the 20th of september, that was a year. they continue to move forward. is a very, very tough environment but they continue to improve. they have a change in almost all the ministers. they've changed that most of the covers. they had key positions but they have to continue to work on together. on the strategic level policie

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dr. abdullah, the security forces, pakistan has issues with daesh. i think if you talked to president ghani about it in terms of recruiting, what he would have told you is al qaeda was windows 1.0, daesh is windows 7.0, in their ability to use social media to get out and recruit. having said that, daesh and taliban ideology are different. they continue to fight each other, specifically in the province of nangah a. r in the east. that's where we've seen the biggest presence of daesh. there are reports throughout the different provinces upward of probably 25-plus provinces we've had reports of daesh. but the significant presence is really in the east, in northern helmand a little bit, in the west. predominantly in nangahar. i don't believe today -- when i was here in february, march, i said it was nascent. today i'd say it's operationally emergent. we have to continue to watch, make sure that the afghans apply pressure on the -- on isis or daesh to make sure it doesn't continue to grow. as you know they are very barbaric, brutal, and they've shown inst

dr. abdullah was sitting in the front row. there was a wonderful round of applause. that would have been a wonderful dr. abdulla up. it was rather a symbolic gesture. i hope you will continue to encourage president ghani to loosen up a little bit. he won. he can afford to be magnanimous. that is free political advice to the president of another country. general campbell: sir, thank you. as you know, dr. abdullah represented afghanistan in new york city this last week. i know that he and president ghani talk every day. this is a step in the right direction as well. senator king: thank you. another political question. what is the feeling of the population of afghanistan about the taliban? is the taliban gaining adherents, losing? do you not approve of the taliban -- what would the results the? general campbell: sir, the people of afghanistan understand the taliban attacks civilians. the taliban kills innocent women and children. the support of the taliban have from the average afghan is not favorable. in fact, the percentage over the years has continued to go down and d

dr. abdullah was sitting in the front row. there was a wonderful round of applause. that would have been a wonderful dr. abdulla up. it was rather a symbolic gesture. i hope you will continue to encourage president ghani to loosen up a little bit. he won. he can afford to be magnanimous. that is free political advice to the president of another country. general campbell: sir, thank you. as you know, dr. abdullah represented afghanistan in new york city this last week. i know that he and president ghani talk every day. this is a step in the right direction as well. senator king: thank you. another political question. what is the feeling of the population of afghanistan about the taliban? is the taliban gaining adherents, losing? do you not approve of the taliban -- what would the results the? general campbell: sir, the people of afghanistan understand the taliban attacks civilians. the taliban kills innocent women and children. the support of the taliban have from the average afghan is not favorable. in fact, the percentage over the years has continued to go down and d

dr. abdullah emissivity forces. pakistan has issues with the daesh. i've talked to the general about the. if you talk to president ghani did not enter the recruiting what he would've told you was al-qaeda with windows 1.0. daesh is windows 7.0 and the ability to socially to get a and recruit. having said that, daesh and taliban ideology are different so they continue to fight each other specific in the province entities. that's what we've seen the biggest presence of daesh. to our reports throughout the different provinces, upward of probably 25 plus provinces we've had reports of daesh but the significant presence is really in the east, down in northern helmand a little bit and in the west. but predominantly in manga are. i don't believe today when i was here february march i would've said it was nation. today it's operational emergency grant to continue watch, to make sure that the afghans apply pressure on isis or daesh to make sure it doesn't continue to grow. passion of their very barbaric, brutal, and it shouldn't instances of that in afghanista

dr. abdullah abdullah is here. he holds the title of chief executive of afghanistan.st. afghan security forces are largely operated on their own after most u.s. troops were withdrawn. some units were remaining to advise and train. on monday, the militant group sees the city of kunduz. efforts to retake it failed despite government reinforces and support the nato airstrikes. it is the taliban's biggest military gainc

. >> rose: abdullah abdullah, margrethe vestager and dr. peter whybrow, when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> rose: additional funding provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: dr. abdullah abdullah is here. he holds the title of chief executive officer of afghanistan. he assumed the post after creating a unity government with. ashraf ghani a year ago. afghan security forces are largely operating on their own after most u.s. troops were withdrawn. some remained to advise and train as the country is facing insurgence by taliban. efforts to retake can does failed despite forces and support from n.a.t.o. airstrikes and special forms. the taliban's biggest military gain since 2001. the group is also facing competition from the islamic state which is challenging it in many parts of the country. the extent of the american presence in afghani

dr. abdullah abdullah said that american forces immediate to stay on over the next couple of years, beyond016, so a mixed bag, and the afghan people, many of them very nervous about a u.s. withdrawal, and they're not too critical of the u.s. military. >>> thank you. new reports indicate that gangs in eastern europe have been running a black market in nuclear materials, and they're going after buyers, who are enemies of the west, including isil. according to the associated press, the fbi stopped reported sales of radioactive material. [ yelling ] >> reporter: it was no ordinary target. armed muldova police were taking no chances as they moved in to apprehend a man alleged to have been involved in a nuclear smuggling network. this is what they were looking for. a sampling of material used in dirty bombs. the suspected middle man with a stash sold to isil. it's a case which has exposed muldova as a heart in the trade of nuclear materials, illegally in an impoverished part of eastern europe. in the past years, the muldova police, along with the fbi, has stopped four rings. undercover police po

dr. abdullah, carmen perez, the executive director of the gathering for justice, and tori russell of hands up united in ferguson, missouri. >> black lives they matter here. >> black lives, they matter here. >> black lives, they matter here. assalamu alaikum. my name is selena abdullah, i am an organizer for black lives matter. i want to thank the honorable minister louis farrakhan for having us and all the struggle he has done for the liberation of black people. i am honored to be among those of you who have struggled for a decade. i am honored to be among those of you who were here 20 years for the million man march. black lives matter is a growing movement, not a moment. we were born just over two years ago. the night that george zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of our son, our brother trayvon martin. i say our son, our brother recognizing that it is sabrina fulton and tracy martin who birthed him, just as mike brown junior is the son of -- and andrew joseph junior is the son of andrew joseph senior and my cousin deanna hardy joseph. they are all ours. they are ours. know itan peopl

dr. abdullah, the senior leadership continually try to engage with the senior elders.y call them shuras. right after they had issues, the senior military on the ground brought in local elder leaders who worked through that. they also try to engage local elders to build afghan local police so that the villages can provide their own security. they will do that in kunduz as well as they continue to move forward. they will bring in the local leadership to make sure they understand what the security forces can provide and what the afghan government can provide. >> what was missed by the afghans in kunduz in terms of the infiltration of the taliban and them coming in? what did we miss or did we know and were not able to stop it? what happened? >> sir, we're still looking at that. the afghans -- we asked that question. the afghans have asked that question. president ghani has established a commission, for lack of a better term, to get up into kunduz to give him readout why this happens, who was responsible. he has a commission that is doing that. >> the reason i ask not to in

dr. lena abdullah and connie perez and torre russell of hands up united in ferguson, missouri. >> black livesack hives, they matter, here. >> black lives, they matter, here! my name is malina abdullah. i'm an organizer with black lives matter. i want to thank the honorable minister farrakhan for having us and all he has done to struggle for the liberation of black people. i'm honored to be among those of you that have struggled for decades. i'm honored to be amidst those of you who like my father were here 20 years ago for the 1 million man march. black lives matter is a growing movement. the night that george zipper mm was acquitted for our son, our brother, trayvon martin. it is sybrina fulton and tracy march thin that birthed him like mike brown jr. is the child of mike brown jr. and leslie spaden. andrew joseph jr. is the son of andrew joseph sr. and my cousin, deanna hardy joseph. they are all ours. they are ours. as african people, we know it is not biology that dictates relationship, it is spirit. we know that oscar grant, megan hagaday and so many others are not individual souls but c

dr. maine lean that abdullah of black lives matter, car men perez, the executive director of the gathering justice, and tori was russell -- tori russell of hands up united in ferguson, missouri. >> black lives, they matter here! >> black lives, they matter here! >> black lives, they matter here! >> black lives they matter here! >> black lives, they matter here! >> speak speak tongue my name is melin a a, i'm an organizer with black lives matter. i want to thank the honorable minister farrakhan for having us and all he's done for the struggle and liberation of black people. i'm honored to be among those of you who have struggled for decades. i'm honored to be amidst those of you who, like my father, were here 20 years ago for the million man march. black lives matter is a growing movement. it is not a moment. we were born just over two years ago, the night george zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of our son, our brother, trayvon martin. and i say "our son, our brother" recognizing that it is sybrina fulton and tracy martin who birthed him just as mike brown jr. is the child of mike brow