dr. abdullah: and syria, and iran. the fact this has happened so quickly, this has created an appeal. charlie: especially from the young around the world, who come from everywhere. dr. abdullahand to go from everywhere. charlie: right. what the you think of the russian president in -- russian presence in syria? dr. abdullah: russian presence in syria. i'm not sure that they will put soldiers on the ground. charlie: putin said off the record to me that he had no plans to do that. dr. abdullah: off the record and on the record, i believe it. charlie: you might assume is one of the reasons is afghanistan. afghanistan was a terrible lesson of history. it has been the burial ground of a lot of people who try to conquer it, as you know better than anyone. dr. abdullah: partly, it is because of that. there are other constraints that they are having. troops on the ground will not help the situation. but, as a matter of pursuit of their own interest, they have chosen to support bashar al-assad, and i watched that in -- that interview with president putin in new york. they will continue that policy. charlie: bringing it back to you, one quick question about pakistan. you seem to sugge

dr. abdullah abdullah is here. he holds the title of chief executive of afghanistan.st. afghan security forces are largely operated on their own after most u.s. troops were withdrawn. some units were remaining to advise and train. on monday, the militant group sees the city of kunduz. efforts to retake it failed despite government reinforces and support the nato airstrikes. it is the taliban's biggest military gainc

i am pleased to have dr., as m.d., abdullah abdullah back as this table. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: is it going from bad to worse in afghanistan? >> i wouldn't call it that way. the recent development in kunduz will be addressed and considered a gain by the taliban but i believe that's temporary gain for the taliban. >> rose: why is it happening, though? >> in the past one year, which afghanistan security forces have shouldered all the responsibility of security and stability from previously, let's say, 140,000 american and international troops on the ground, that transition took place very quickly, and then the military security transition coincided with the political transition. the elections, which was contentious. in the period between 2012 and 2014, the taliban strategy was just to survive and to stay there because they were hoping that, once the troop withdrawal completes itself, then they can come back in a big way and the end of 2014 and beginning 2015, they considered as their victory and final victory. and in the past 12 months, the

dr. abdullah: and syria, and iran. the fact this has happened so quickly, this has created an appeal. charlie: especially from the young around the world, who come from everywhere. dr. abdullah: and to go from everywhere. charlie: right. what the you think of the russian president in syria? dr. abdullah: russian presence in syria. charlie: putin said off the record to me that he had no plans to do that. off the record and i believe it. charlie: afghanistan was a terrible lesson of history. been bad for a lot of dr. abdullah: people who tried to conquer it. dr. abdullah:dr. abdullah: partly, it is because of that. there are other constraints that they are having. troops on the ground will not help the situation. the show are said -- bashar that in, and i watched new york. they will continue that policy. charlie: bringing it back to you, one quick question about pakistan. you seem to suggest clearly the pakistanis and the leadership of pakistan knew that osama bin laden was there. they had to know. laden,ullah: osama bin absolutely. charlie: they all denied it. they said they don't know at the highest officials. someone had to know, but they don't know. and you are saying, get

dr. abdullah abdullah said that american forces immediate to stay on over the next couple of years, beyond016, so a mixed bag, and the afghan people, many of them very nervous about a u.s. withdrawal, and they're not too critical of the u.s. military. >>> thank you. new reports indicate that gangs in eastern europe have been running a black market in nuclear materials, and they're going after buyers, who are enemies of the west, including isil. according to the associated press, the fbi stopped reported sales of radioactive material. [ yelling ] >> reporter: it was no ordinary target. armed muldova police were taking no chances as they moved in to apprehend a man alleged to have been involved in a nuclear smuggling network. this is what they were looking for. a sampling of material used in dirty bombs. the suspected middle man with a stash sold to isil. it's a case which has exposed muldova as a heart in the trade of nuclear materials, illegally in an impoverished part of eastern europe. in the past years, the muldova police, along with the fbi, has stopped four rings. undercover police po