dr. adkins, turn two exhibit 47. the last two medical opinions in the exhibit 47. spent okay, ma do you want the last two? with debbie adkins number one? -- would that be adkins number one? spent is this document typical of the medical forms completed for mr. conn's clients? >> can i have just a second to look through it? >> sure. >> yes, sir. >> all right. in the background section of each of those reports, typical patient, is this information included in the section of the report provided by the claimant? >> i'm sorry? >> in the background section, the background section in your report speeders are you talking about dated september 2010 portion? >> yes. >> okay. now, what was your question, sir? >> is this information routinely provided by the claimant? >> routinely provided by the climate? >> in other words, where did you get the information? >> okay. where did i get this information? from eric conn's office spent you didn't get it from the climate? >> well, let me check back here. okay. there's nothing showing in the actual body of the report. i didn't document

dr. adkins told a the committee investors that he routinely signed. only the names and social security numbers were changed as just as before judge daugherty would cite only these documents. it would be useful now to turn back to the issue of why these individuals did what they did. the short answer is that each of them, mr. conn, his doctors, judge daugherty and judge enters benefit into the ways both personally and financially. mr. conn made millions, claimants on the db list from 2006-2010, four years, mr. conn was paid over $4.5 million by the social security administration and attorney fees. in 2010 alone he earned over 3.9 million for all of his cases, including those from judge daugherty. mr. conn's doctors also benefited handsomely. mr. conn paid his doctors up to six and $50 per claimant, helping to earn considerable fees and my testimony that would have sometimes been less than 10 to 15 minutes with them. for the four years records committee of game mr. conn paid dr. huffnagle almost $1 million, doctor herb was paid more than 6000, dr. adkin

dr. adkins. did at any time the social security system when they asked you to evaluate a patient send you a form pre-filled out? >> very rarely. >> prefilled out in. >> oh, i'm sorry, no, sir. >> dud they ever send you one that was pre-filled? >> no, sir. >> all right, thank you. >> any more questions from our, from our senators? okay. thankthank you, governor manchir joining us. and with that, this panel is excused. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for giving the time. thank you. >> you bet. >> now, more from the senate homeland security hearing on social security fraud. next, workers in the claims office where form former judge david daugherty allegedly funneled fraudulent claims for eric khan testified about what they witnessed. this panel is an hour and 20 minutes. >> i'd like now to call, invite our third panel of witnesses to the witness table for this evening's hearing. i'll just briefly introduce each of you. eric khan, attorney and owner of the khan law firm. mr. khan, welcom

dr. adkins. the agency looked the other way. the big numbers effectively let gherty do whatever he wanted, and that office rose to high productivity. they received salary increases. some even received bonuses for their productivity. one judge got national recognition when he was tapped to mentor other alj's and then promoted. while lawyers and doctors were getting rich through the broken issue was theeal claimants and the taxpayers paid the claimants suffer. those will certainly hurt who are receiving those benefits when the trust fund runs out of money, probably less than in 18 months. at the same time, the american taxpayer suffer. for the claimants on the d.b. list, it was millions in lifetime benefits. paid, the judge awarded $2.5 billion in the last six years. probably the most troubling issue our investigation uncovered is what happened when the details of this plan started in may 2000blic. 11, a reporter with the wall street journal ran a story about andrelationship of mr. conn the judges. they responded by clearing out w

dr. brad adkins. when dr. hofnagle passed away look for doctors to fill his shoes and look for doctors with prior sanctions and problems, easier to hire them. >> what did you do for mr. conn and how long did you work there? >> i was with the law firm for six years in the number of things. with the social security office, assisted in managing the office at one point. i have been the receptionist. for a year-and-a-half or two years of mostly went to hearings with perfect. >> with mr conn's clients, where would they go when need to be seen by a doctor? >> eric had the medical wind but only had that last year or two that i was there. mostly the racine there. the office was within walking distance from eric conn's office of clients would go to his office and for brad at can they mostly saw him at his own office as well. >> could you describe to me a typical day when dr. hofnagel was seeing a patients in dr. conn's office? you can generalize. not specific. >> when he was in the office he probably got anywhere from 1