dr. ahmed has been here four or five times a i think since he arrived in the united states in 2001, which is when i first met him. he holds the chair of islamic studies at american university, and he invited me to his installation -- this was back in 2001 -- vandals certainly ghanem impressive affair he had. muslim scholars from all over the world flight in for his installations, and i just knew at that moment that we were going to see great things in the future for professor ahmed, and that has occurred. he also, since that time, he has been named the distinguished -- he is the distinguished chair of middle east and islamic studies at the naval academy. and now, according to the bbc, he is the world's top leading authority on contemporary islam and is also known as one of pakistan's both a distinguished anthropologist's. for his new book, which is a companion study to his journey into islami that cannot three years ago, professor ahmed was wearing his anthropologist at for this i think, gather