dr. asher has advised the leadership of so com, centcom on top threat priorities. dr. asher conceived of and spear headed several of the highest profile anti-money laundering actions in history. from 2002 until 2005, dr. asher organized and ran the north korea elicit activities initiative for the national security council and the department of state. dr. asher graduated from cornell university and received his doctorate in international relations from the university of oxford. richard barrett is a senior vice president, and a fellow at the new american foundation in washington. the royal united services institute in london, and the center for research and security studies in islamabad. from march 2004 to december of 2012, mr. barrett served as the coordinator of the monitoring team at the united nations in new york. in 2005, he helped establish what became the united nations counterterrorism implementation task force following the adoption by the general assembly of the global strategy to count

dr. asher: it might be. mr. williams: where are these cars being purchased? dr. asher: thousands of people the customs has denied thousands of these for people from lebanon. it is unfortunate for our relationship with lebanon. people are being told, go by cars and the just do it. they will get a big cut because it is drug money. they do not care how much money they made on the transaction they just want the car. without the car, they cannot launder the money. you see a lot of car lots in virginia or baltimore, you go there and you see no one in the car lot. ask yourself who is running the racket? they season the kit -- the cars and they are off to west africa to car lots. mr. williams: did you say the cars are -- mr. dr. asher: they know how to beat the system. they are really brilliant. mr. williams: how are they being paid for? cash? dr. asher: the banks are involved. this is an issue. i do not want to blame our bankers. our bankers are trying hard to enforce anti-money laundering. what we ne

dr. asher conceived up and the -- and spearheaded several of the most high profile and money laundering events in history. asher organized and ran to noekt national security council and department of state. he received his doctorate in international relations from the university of oxford. richard barrett is a senior vice president of the group and fellow in the new american foundation in washington. royal united services for london and the center for research and security studies of islamabad. he served as the coordinator of the al qaeda and taliban monitoring team in the united nations in new york. in 2005 he helped to establish what became the united nations counterterrorism implementation task force following the adoption by the general assembly of the global strategy to counterterrorism for 2006. before joining the united nations he worked for the british government both at home and overseas. douglas fairrah is currently president of the llc. he is senior nonresident associate in the cente

dr. asher led on the lebanese bank type thing. the chairman's first question was in latin america, what would the joint task force be good? those guys are looking at pocket literature and different things that did very well at what they did. what we're looking at now is state run bank systems, where we have multiple banks in central america growing exponentially with no rational explanation. we have banks in panama doing exactly the same thing. >> would any measures we take, though be moot by a lifting of sanctions with respect to iran's banks? >> i think that it could -- i think it would make it much more difficult. once the sanction is -- as selena said, once the sanctions are lifted, the snap back is not going to be very rapid or nearly as forceful. >> let me bring the professor in there, because in your testimony, one of the measures that you identified to counter these networks were to maintain a vib vigorous sanction regime against state sponsors, transnational criminal organizations and