>> reporter: dr. ault, you signed onto a letter tonight asking georgia corrections officials to reconsider this case specifically highlighting the toll that this would take on corrections officers and other people in the corrections system involved in this execution, saying that you understand from your own personal experiences the awful lifelong repercussions that come from participating in the execution of prisoners. i wounded if just in terms of those of us who know and care about government workers and people who are public servants and working for corrections departments if you could describe what you meant by that, the kind of repercussions this might have for people who work in the system. >> well, in my experience i could have stayed in tlnt but i chose to go to jackson. i didn't ask staff to do something i wouldn't do. but i know that we tried to get psychological and psychiatric help for all the people that participated. and one day i understood fully that i was finding it for everybody but me. a

dr. ault, stay with us. let's bring in rachel maddow who wants it ask a question. rachel? grateful to have you sinus with us tonight. you asked georgia corrections to reconsider, specifically highlighting the toll this would take on corrections officers and other people in the corrections system involved in this execution saying, that you understand interest your own personal experiences the awful life-long repercussions that come from participating in the execution of prisoners. i wondered if just in terms of those of white house know and care about government workers, and people who are public servants working for corrections departments, if you could describe what you meant by that, the repercussions for people who work in the system. >> well in my experience, i could have stayed in atlanta but i chose to go to jackson. i didn't ask staff to do something i wouldn't do. but i know that we tried to get psychological and psychiatric help for all of the people that participated. and one day i understood fully that i was trying to get it for everybody but me. and then i real

dr. allen ault, former warden from the georgia prison where troy davis was executed last night, former state commissioner of corrections in georgia and in colorado and mississippi, sir, i feel like your perspective on this, it's not only invaluable to us in terms of covering this, but your decision to write to corrections officials last night and put this into words before thaex koougs was a real act of bravery and made some very powerful arguments. so thank you for doing that, sir, and thanks for talking with us. >> thank you. >> all right. republicans in congress say they would like to pay for disaster relief by taking money from other government programs. house democrats are saying no way to that. and now apparently we are facing another possible government shutdown crisis over this. the latest on that pshl crisis coming up straight ahead on "the ed show." and also coming up here, the best new thing in the world. sorely needed. >>> we're going to -- >> after about 40 minutes of frantic digging, this. a newborn puppy free at last. >> all right. they do not exactly tell you this in tv schoo