but dr. baden it doesn't make the prosecutors drop the charges. [ female announcer ] the humana walmart-preferred rx plan p-d-p gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. megyn: you have law enforcement in california saying they suspect murder, but telling the "l.a. times" that some evidence might now suggest accident and the d.a. spokeswoman declined to elaborate on the new information. dr. baden, are you the new information? >> i'm not sure what the d.a. says. i love lis but i must agree with mark's analysis. they were just about to celebrate 50 years of a very happy marriage. no arguments, no boyfriends. megyn: the reports of the arguments and fighting before he died are not true. megyn: married couples fight. >> also, the first officer at the scene, megyn was called -- he didn't feel there was anything suspicious. they released the body. they went to th

dr. baden, they also put out a call for extra help and the coroner's office was overwhelmed. does there have to be an autopsy for every single child? >> that, the medical examiner will have to decide. if there is a bullet in the body they have to do an internal examination to remove the bullet. all bullets have to be recovered and then they would get matched up to whatever weapons are available. if there's a bullet from a weapon that's not available, that means there's another shooter. even as remote that might be, that's one thing that the autopsy will do. but the cause of death is not an issue. the autopsy will show how close the weapon was at the time of discharge, whether it was distant or right up close, and the autopsy on the perpetrator will tell a lot, on adam, were there any drugs in his body, had he been getting psycho therapeutic drugs. and there's some studies that show some can make an american more apreggressive. >> and what does his brain look look. there have been questions raised of autism and asperger's, nothing to do with-- >> and the news conference now st

dr. baden, they also put out a call for extra help. the corner's office there is -- coroner's office is overwhelmed. does there have to be an autopsy for every single child? >> that medical examiner will have to decide. if there is a bullet in the body, they have to do an internal examination to remove the bullet. all bullets have to be recovered. they then would get matched up to whatever weapons are available. if there's one bullet from a weapon that isn't available, that means there's another shooter. even as remote as that might be, that's one of the things that the autopsy will do. but the cause of death is not an issue. the autopsy also will be able to tell how close the weapon was at the time of distinguished chairman, whether it was -- at the at the time of discharge, whether it was distant or up close. the autopsy on the perpetrator will tell a lot, on adam. were there any drugs in his body? had he been getting psycho therapeutic drugs, which there have been some studies that show some of these can make a person more aggressiv

dr. baden, explain, i automatically assumed that a serial killer's dna would be in the dna database. and it wasn't? >> the dna database which is federally governed by the fbi and contains millions of inputs, each state sets its own standards on what to submit to the, to the database, code dis. -- codis. at the time that gacy was killing people in 1978, was before dna was found, which is back in 1979. 1989, 10 years later. so that, nothing was put in the database at that time. gregg: right. >> now putting it in the database now may connect him to other murders that had been reported and were unsolved. it is not likely to identify some of the identified dead already found in his house. gregg: yeah. mary ellen, a lot of people always thought he was responsible for many more murders than those attributed to him. what say you? >> i would definitely agree with that and the reason say that is having interviewed a number of these serial killers and worked on hundreds of cereal murder cases we know ther

dr. baden, nice to have you on set as always a pleasure. rick?ick: jenna, the white house is stepping up pressure on states around the country refusing to comply with a certain key provision of obamacare. we'll tell you what the administration is now doing. plus new fallout over new taxes an fees associated with the health care law. a fair and balanced discussion is straight ahead. >>> plus a man gunned down in midtown manhattan in broad daylight as crowds of shocked tourists look on. the latest in the manhunt for a killer coming up. jenna: want to take you back out to lansing, michigan, where we're watching this these live pictures come in as we await for what is believed to be the evental signing of the right to work bill by the governor. we mentioned police presence at the capitol. not necessarily to handle protesters on the screen. some protesters tried to get into the senate chamber as the state senate was trying to approve the right-to-work bill. a lot of attention and emotion in michigan. we'll continue to watch it. as we know the governor

jenna: dr. baden, thank you for your help on this case. >> thank you. jenna: jon?ening moments to show you that were caught on video. a massive mudslide thunders down a 100 foothill. the shocking results coming up next. >>> plus, senior correspondent john roberts live at atlanta's hartsfield-jackson international airport with a heart-warming story just in time for the holidays. john? >> reporter: yeah, jon. a few days before christmas, thousands of fresh-faced army recruits from for the benning heading home for what may be their last christmas holiday before they are deployed to the war zone in afghanistan. we'll have more on that story coming up right after the break. jenna: in a private press briefing our ed henry learned something very significant from the white house when it comes to this fiscal cliff deal or no deal. apparently the white house right now, according to senior administration officials, are accusing boehner of at least, temporarily derailing the debt talks. we talked about plan b being offered yesterday. boehner came out and said, what i'd like to

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dr. baden, they've moved the bodies out.odies moved out and for the families. what does it mean. >> the school is locked down and the investigators can go throughout the school and do all they have to do and take a few more days to be able to document everything, and meanwhile, the families know that their loved ones have been identified. they've identified them and probably moved them out to the medical examiner's office in farmington, connecticut, and the bodies will be released from there when they're finished with whatever additional has to be done. >> steve: it must have been excruciating for 20 sets of parents to have waited outside at that school for practically 24 hours, if the bodies were moved last night. >> in the firehouse where they were amassing and for them, come on, we know my child is dead, why do i have to wait. >> well, they have to identify each child to make sure the wrong child doesn't go and now that that's been done, they'll soon have the bodies because the bodies have to be examined. >> and the medic

dr. michael baden, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> when we come back, a school psychologist will talkut the long-term effect this will have on the children who survived the massacre. >> there was noise, they were kind of huddled up, they were evacuated. i think, you know, probably the scarier part for them was being taken out of a room by police officers and, you know, that kind of thing, withdrawn guns. i think that was probably the harrowing moment for them. and the parent reactions, i mean, i don't know some kids obviously saw more and therefore they were more impacted. >> certainly many of us will never forget the details of that tragedy. young students who were there and managed to survive a lot of us are asking now what will they remember and how will those children process it? we are joined by dr. thomas kirsten a school psychologist in new jersey what are they facing long-term. >> one thing we will see is post-traumatic stress disorder no doubt about it. >> even a a-year-old. >> definitely, without question. this is is traumatic life incident they will carry no different from