we were very lucky. >> dr. baker you've seen that family support make a tremendous difference at innova fairfax. what kind of difference can it make for parents? >> it's a huge asset. i take care of babies, to make sure i'm taking care of the fluids, breathing, infection but you've got a parent right there who's spearsing this at the same time. so the march of dimes through the family support has reallily take than parent and they'll have days when they have scrapbooking and pizza and talking to other parents and trying to comfort them and say it is a roller coaster. but the huge majority of these kids survive and do well. if you hang in there it will start to turn around. it really has been a huge asset to us as physicians to take care of the parent as well while we sort of focus on the child. >> every case is different. is there a typical length of stay that will parents can expect on the high end and the low end too? >> know, usually a child is going to be in the nicu till his due date. so if 40 weeks is gestation