dr. berwick.t is different about the crisis level this time that might force some accommodation among the very different sides of the medicare-medicaid debate? >> i think we have seen -- we have seen two very different proposals. three things going on. medicare is an open-ended entitlement program. it is too costly right now and not enough money going in. . the republicans on one side saying, for the most part, go the private sector and see if the markets can work this out. and of the democrats saying, long-term improvements, quality of care, and the question they're being, is the government capable of doing that and does the public have any appetite to trust the private sector? these are very different approaches. i am not sure there is any accommodation. >> is the outcome unknowable? >> i think it is informed by a level of urgency. it may be somewhat different than in the past. there is not a huge amounts of time to actually come up with something. but he is right, the two sides are very far apa

dr. donald berwick will talk about the future of medicare, the administration, and democratic plans for thegram. he also reacts to house budget committee chairman paul ryan's plan to gradually transition medicare to a defined benefit program to one based on premiums. sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> next weekend, the cities tour with book tv events on c-span 2. plus, a look at the book industry with local book sellers. also, benoist aircraft and angola settlement. the ltv cities tour -- lcv cities tour kicks off next weekend. >> next, a discussion on state education programs and undocumented students. from washington journal, this is 40 minutes. >> our guest now, josh bernstein, immigration director for the seiu. we are here to tao state tuition rates for illegal immigrants. back up to something called the dream act that did not succeed in congress in the recent months. what would that legislation have done? guest: the dream act is for a generation of young people who are the victims of our broken immigration system. they are young people who were brght here who have

dr. donald berwick. talk about the future of medicare, the administration, and democratic plans for the program. he also talks about rep wine in's program. that is sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> c-span's local content vehicle kicks off its local to work next week in tampa and st. petersburg, including interviews with del quintin welber. so american history events from c-span3. and the hidden history of angola, a settlement of about 350 who fought two wars. thelcv cities tour kicks off this weekend. >> -- >> the lcv cities to work to stop this weekend. >> next, from washington journal -- this is about 30 minutes. we are here to talk about state tuition rates for illegal immigrants. back up to something called the dream act that did not succeed in congress in theecent months. what would that legislation have done? guest: the dream act is for a generation of young people who are the victims of our broken immigration system. they are young people who were brought here who have grown

dr. donald berwick. he is our guest tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. eastern.he last couple calls on the question of whether colleges worth it. illinois, democrat, thank you for waiting. caller: no matter the cost, college education is worth it. college education is worth it. i am an older worker about lost my job and i applied for electrical instrumentation job, a maintenance job, and i had to take a chemical engineering test for that job. i would like to argue for the students out there listening -- work harder. i agree with thomas jefferson -- education is the key to everything. i left with a lady from human resources. i had not taken a hard test in 20 years. that was the hardest hit ever take it and she chuckled with me and said everyone in the office our engineers. the two people who qualify for taking this test, both of us were turned down for a big job is in the paper again dober chemical in hammond, indiana. for the students, work harder, work harder, work harder. thank you for cspan and kerri andrea host: that was our last call for this segment. look f