dr. bonati: exactly. > kimberly: right. > dr. bonati: and this is something that needs to be clarified. > kimberly: sure. > dr. bonati: and it needs to be avoided in this situation for the politicians to look good. > kimberly: correct. > dr. bonati: okay. and that's one of the things that's creating a lot of misunderstanding. > kimberly: part of this single taxpayer system; not taxpayer, rather but healthcare system, one of the problems with this becomes death panels. so it's nice to say that you'll get your freebie but then when it comes down to it you really don't. because there's somebody on the other side that gets to approve you or deny your medical care. correct? > dr. bonati: well it's happening today. it's happening today. we don't have death panels although obama in the obamacare.. > kimberly: we see it with the veterans healthcare. > dr. bonati: yeah. we're already seeing something that's very, very clear. something that's very, for example, when you go to a doctor now the insurance companies say "we are going to approve