dr. bowers, i think the price is, if i'm not mistaken, are going to rise. but somewhere between $18,000 and maybe $24,000. >> hen your patients do select to have this surgery, when that's important to them, do you feel like you've done something important to them and changed their lives in a positive way? >> oh, absolutely, so positive. many of them feel like this is their rebirth. >> it is. >> and for somebody like him, oftentimes the females to males, what they want is their chest surgery. they have breasts and they can't integrate in society with breasts. so, a lot of transgenders who are female to males, all they want is the chest surgery, and they don't want anything with their genitals. in fact, that's the main, the largest numbers. >> i wanted to say, drew, before we go that, you know, i'm really proud to be a transgendered female. you know, it's okay for isis to feel she is a woman. she is a woman. she's a transgendered woman, and where whole life she will be that. we need to know that we have pride in the people that we are. some people pass. some