dr. brenner in new jersey. we'll now meet the local 49ers.representing thousands of engineers in minnesota and the dakotas. the group discovered, much as our friends in camden did, that in their case, 17% of the union membership was accounting for 83% of the annual health care spending. remember, in america in general, 5% of the people account for 50% of the spending. so in response to this hot spot, union leadership developed a two-pronged approach to cut costs while simultaneously increasing the quality of care. you see, really high costs for people can be an indication that care is backed. what they will make clear once again is this. if we are able to identify the sickest people among us in a given health care network, public or private, and if we focus our efforts in resources on helping those people become healthier, not only will our health care costs go down as a nation, but our health will go up. it's that simple. joining us now from minneapolis is the -- from the international union of operating engineers local 49, martha lefaub wit