dr. brzezinski. dr. o the point where the united states is now either feared or disdained by both fighting factions in egypt? >> if we want to understand what is happening, we can't just look at the headlines of the last few days. we have to look at what has been happening over the last ten years. ten years ago, exactly in 2003, we invaded iraq, which was ruled by an odious dictator who, however, was impotent because we defeated him back in 1991. he didn't have any serious weapons. we claimed he did. we overthrew him and we, therefore, opened the doors to extremism, including al qaeda in iraq. and then we are to draw lessons from that. earlier on, the same thing more or less happened in iran. today, in egypt, we have a confrontation between two very violent and extremist groups and we ought to make a reasoned judgment, which of these is worse for us, in the longer run? is religious extremism, fanaticism, militantsy worse for us, or is military brutality worse for us? and which way are the winds blowing in

dr. brzezinski?s around, dr. kissinger?s around. we?re moving our office in a couple weeks, so that?s why we have such sort of emptiness here. our new building will be at 1616 rhode island avenue, and you can follow us on twitter, @csis, for more updates about that. but it?s an exciting moment in the 50-year history of csis, and we?re looking forward. actually, i think this will probably be the last press briefing we do in this old building. so thank you again for being here. with that, i?d like to open it up for questions. right here. q: dmitri kirsanov with itar- tass. i would like to ask the members of the panel to put a little more meat on the issue of what?s going to happen next in the bilateral relationship. and since mr. goodman mentioned that probably there will be no bilateral meeting between presidents ? mr. : (off mic.) (laughter.) q: well, i would like to hear that. is there any chances that the summit might be a (warming- off ?) point, or none at all? mr. schwartz: thanks, dmitri, for the question. i was thinking this morning i would ? you know, it could be a statements-

dr. brzezinski was on the show saying, we need to pick a side.ou need to pick the winning side, but we need to pick a side and we can't keep waffling back and forth. we are either going to support the generals and say we're going to support you, but these are the conditions that are attached and this is what you're going to have to do and you're going to have to release morsi and stop acting like a bunch of thugs, but we will support you. all right. we're on your side. now let's clean this mess up. or we've got to support the muslim brotherhood or -- >> or we have to support -- >> or a process. >> we have to support the idea of democracy. >> the idea of a democratic process that led to the election of a muslim brotherhood. but we have to choose a side. this president loves to say, morsi must -- or president loves to say, mubarak must go. we'll see if he goes or not. and then assad must go. well, okay. once you say, assad must go and you're the united states president, assad must go. >> or don't say it. >> or keep your mouth shut. if you say mubar

dr. brzezinski's rhetoric dr. kissinger is run.office in a couple of weeks and that's why we have such emptiness here. our new building will be at 1616 rhode island avenue and you can follow us on twitter at csis for more updates about that but it's an exciting moment in the 50 to understand -- 50 year period. so thank you again for being here. with that i would like to open it up to questions. right here. >> dimitri. i would like to ask members of the panel a little more meat on the issue of what's going to happen next on bilateral relationship, and since mr. putin mentioned on there will be no bilateral meeting -- [inaudible] spend i would like to hear that. is there any chances that this someone might be a warning off point, or not at all? >> thanks, dmitri, for the question that i was thinking this morning commute, it could be a statesman like a move on the part of president obama in particular since it was the united states they cancel the summit meetings, to request a one on one bilateral meetings with president putin. but i

dr. brzezinski's around, dr. kissinger's around. we're moving our office in a couple of weeks, so that's why we have such sort of emptiness here. our new building will be at 1616 rhode island avenue, and you can follow us on twitter @csis for more update, but it's an exciting moment in the 50-year history of csis and, actually, i think this'll probably be the last press briefing we do in this old building so thank you, again, for being here. with that, i'd like to open it up for questions. right here. >> dmitri -- [inaudible] i would like to ask the members of the panel to put a little more meat on the issue of what's going to happen next in the bilateral relationship, and since mr. goodman mentioned that probably there will be no bilateral meeting between -- >> andy would -- [inaudible conversations] >> well, i would like to hear that. >> [inaudible] >> is there any chances that the summit might be a warming-off point or none at all? >> um, thanks, dmitri, for the question. i was thinking this morning it would, you know, it could b