. >> well, we're very glad you saw that movie, dr. butra, and ken sullivan, you and dr. butra, mississippi owes you a debt to the state and constitution. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> it's president's day. going to the mattress, let's play "hardball." >> good evening, let me start tonight with this big one. is barack obama going for it? is he becoming one of the great president presidents in history? i'm talking to use his word, "transformational." and is he using the country's historic demographic shift to do it? can he combine the new american power of hispanics with the immediate aspirations of women to lob himself into the highest level of presidential greatness? this is what his adversaries fear. they look at his working of the gun safety crusade. his distancing of himself from triumphing over the hard, often bizarre right wing of this country toe do it. i've got to msnbc political analysts to answer the question. howard fineman and joy reid. first of all, i want to ask you both about these numbers here. these are numbers for the next election, 2014.