dr. carol lee, standing over the wall there. is one of the brightest and one of the most important educators in this country. my wife is the president of aera, american research associatio the largest body of researchers in the world, 25,000 members. [applause] >> my wife, dr. carol lee, did her ph.d. at the university of chicago, three years, three years? when she walked off the stage northwestern grabbedher. she's a full professor at northwestern university. she was also inducted in a national education academy about two years ago. there's only 225 members and she's one of this em. and go to your workshop and she will ask your questions more accurately than i can. >> all right. i'd like to thank y for coming. >> i had a question. >> hi, how are you? my name is a my, per conditions. how are you and i just had a question. u can answer pretty quickly, i guess. but what you authors found out about yourselves by writing the biographies of, you know, mr. kojo is the biography you wrote for, what was it mr. weber and, you know, writi