dr. caroline popland. my question is germany. it was the most cosmopolitan and highly educated society in europe and they did the most horrible crime. >> yeah. well, it is a little misleading to say it. there were sectors of jaernlgermany that were educated and sectors of germany that were more tribal in their mindset and deeply anti-semetic. and rather than an acceptance of the idea of universal rights and emphasis on the flourishing individuals the was a primitive embrace of blood and soul soil tribalism. you are right. there is a flourishing of cosmopolitans but they were all murdered. when it comes to an entire society, it is important to see how dynamics can lead to competition among the various sectors. and if you have a robust population that people are not murdered it can affect the society as a whole of course. >> first a comment then question. i think i have a fantasy carl would appreciate was the boon well of the great spanish filmmaker and cleverist of his all as he was dying said if only ever ten years i could get up