to be with to her of her friends, johnnie carr, the architect of the montgomery bus boycott and a white woman named virginia dirk, whose husband had represented dr. king. i was sitting and listening to her for two hours and she was so encouraging. at one point she said to me, bryant, tommy what the equal justice initiative is. tell me what your turn to do. and i looked at her to see if i had permission to speak and she nodded. i gave her my rep. and i gave her my whole rap and when i finished, she said, that is going to make you tired and tired. and she said that is why you've got to be brave, brave, brave. ms. parks was a courageous woman . what defined her was her bravery, her willingness to take personal challenges, personal risks to advance the cause of justice. she is really in many ways not fully credited for being that courageous, tenacious fighter which i think more accurately characterized her life. amy: talk about how you and from delaware to becoming this leading civil rights, human rights attorney arguing numbers of times before the supreme court. brian: i got to go to high school due to lawyers who came in. i did not know what i wou