dr. carson's businessman and i continue as a friend and adviser to my very good friend here. dr. , when you think about your role as secretary of hud and you have someone like mr. harvey here today, you think what he said, what do you think is synergy and the commonality where you can make a difference? >> well, it gives me hope to recognize that there are people, you know, on both sides who can look at the big picture. not at just, you know, their interests. but how do we make america into a place that is good for everybody, that has the right ability to climb that ladder. and we need to recognize that it is actually good -- i don't care where you are or on the social economic spectrum, it is good for you that others succeed, that they become part of the engine and not part of the load. that helps each and every one of us. but to thi-- the thing that rea excites me, growing up in the inner city myself, one thing i remember so vividly is that there were a lot of people there who were very very bright who really had incredible talent. we need to develop that talent. that talent nee

dr. ben carson is our guest. you are just a goodman. you are honest and you hav have a lot of integrity. you speak about what the other side needs to do. what is it that president trump needs to do to play his role and heeling. we have to understand human nature human gnawture we always tend to want t ourselves. the easiest way to do that is to put someone else down. we need to move to a place where we recognize that the elevation needs to be for all of us. not for one of us at the expense of the elder. we live-in a dangerous world right now. we live-in a world where some would like to deny it there are radical people that would like to destroy us and our way of life. we make their task easier when we try to destroy each other and demondize each everyone on both sides needs to appreciate that and began to work and speak with that in mind. we could accomplish a lot. i'm pleased our founding fathers put together the same system that they did it was never their intention that one party would try to destroy each other. they wanted different

dr. carson's businessmannage business manager during his campaign. he's now the housing and development appointee. he is joining us for his first interview. dr. carson, welcome to the show. >> thank you, good to be here again. >> this is about what's next. i remember when i grew up as a kid i wanted to be a writer. i really wanted to write books. oh, my god i just dreamed of what it would be like to be an an the thrill was over and it was like what's next. we set goals and become

carson. [applause] [cheers] host: this year, dr. ben carson was sworn in as the 17th secretary of the u.s. department of housing and urban development. born in detroit to a single mother with a third grade education that worked multiple jobs to support the family, secretary carson was raised to love reading and education. he graduated from yale university and earned his diploma from the university of ichigan medical school. he has served as director of neurosurgery at the johns hopkins children's center, a position he assumed when he was just 33 years old, becoming the youngest major division director in the hospital's history. but dr. carson is no stranger to making history. in 1987, he successfully performed the first ever separation of twins conjoined at the back of the head. dr. carson has received dozens of honors and awards in recognition of his achievements, including the presidential medal of freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. he is also the recipient of the highest honor bestowed by the national association for the advancement of colored people. dr. carson has authored

carson. [applause] [cheers] host: this year, dr. ben carson was sworn in as the 17th secretary of the u.s. department of housing and urban development. born in detroit to a single mother with a third grade education that worked multiple jobs to support the family, secretary carson was raised to love reading and education. he graduated from yale university and earned his diploma from the university of michigan medical school. he has served as director of neurosurgery at the johns hopkins children's center, a position he assumed when he was just 33 years old, becoming the youngest major division director in the hospital's history. but dr. carson is no stranger to making history. in 1987, he successfully performed the first ever separation of twins conjoined at the back of the head. dr. carson has received dozens of honors and awards in recognition of his achievements, including the presidential medal of freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. he is also the recipient of the highest honor bestowed by the national association for the advancement of colored people. dr. carson has authored

carson. [applause] [cheers] host: this year, dr. ben carson was sworn in as the 17th secretary of the u.s.tment of housing and urban

dr. ben carson's house. they were away when it happened. dr. carson talked to only news 4 megan fitzgerald about this weekend's vai leiolence and howe bridged the racial divide. >> it's not about pointing fingers. about who should have done what and when they should have done it and when they should have said >> marching and rallying. he believes that he should take the high road. he says that it's important to look the other way and to not, you know, get in the trenches of anything and to just ignore it, he says. >> he talked with you for almost an hour and we've all seen the president's tweets, megan, about what is happening to confederate statutes all over the country and here, too. he called them beautiful. he said that it's sad that they're being removed, what did dr. carson say about the president's tweets and feelings on these statutes. >> you know, as we're know. the president tweets several times a day. so there's a lot that you can sort of dissect in the tweets that he says. some of the times you're kind of wondering, you know, maybe t

dr. ben carson. [cheers] >> and thank you to a very, very special man, franklin graham, reverend franklin graham, for leading us in prayer, and thank you to alveda king, the niece of the great dr. martin luther king. [cheers] >> it really shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. >> yeah! >> well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. [cheers] >> where so many thousands of hard-working american patriots.

dr. ben carson at housing and urban development? i know you're going to hear from dr. carson tonight, and he's just an incredible member of this cabinet, right along with others like secretary of defense jim attic -- jim mad dog mattis. you go around that cabinet table, people like betsy devos and others -- it speaks volumes about this president's commitment to surrounding himself with extraordinary men and women as a part of this administration's team. i couldn't be more proud to be a small part of it. as i stand before you today, i stand before you today, i am deeply humbled to be able to report to you that not just in assembling this team, but since day one of this administration, this president has been putting conservative principles into practice, to strengthen america at home and abroad so your generation can live in a country that is prosperous, safe, and free, and is built on the highest ideals of the american experience. a quick look at what our president has done to get the american economy moving again already. president trump i'm pleased to report has actua

well, look, we acknowledged it was a mistake, and publicly apologised to dr carson. him on a list of extremists, and that was a mistake. i think anyone who googles mr carson can see that he made some what i would say, you know, odd, peculiar and extreme statements. but we shouldn't have listed him in the way that we do. we make mistakes sometimes, and we own up to them. do you think it is dangerous, this polarisation, which you are a part of? and i understand why you feel it is so important to stand up to hate, but in a sense, you are part of the polarisation. well, look, i don't think it's... i don't think hate and calling out hate are morally equivalent. i think that's a false equivalency, and so i think they are quite different things, so i would reject the premise of your question entirely. let's get, then, to the critique that comes your way from the other side, if you like. and that is from those young people, in particular, who look at what is happening on the streets of charlottesville and elsewhere today, and they say that the only way to confront the neo—naz

as well as my friend dr ben carson. and thank you toa friend dr ben carson.ry, very special man, franklin graham, for leading us in prayer. and thank you to alveda king. denise of martin luther king. —— denise. it really shows that we are nation with faith. i'm glad to be back in phoenix, in the great state of arizona. where so many thousands of ha rd—working state of arizona. where so many thousands of hard—working american patriots leave. i would love if the cameras can show this crowd because it is rather incredible. it is incredible. it is incredible. as everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as the night, but the people said right at the beginning, you know, there's something special happening here and we went to centre stage almost from day one in the debates. we loved those debates. but we went to centre stage and we never left, right? all of us, did it together. you were there at the start, you've been there every single day since and i will never forget, believe me, arizona,

dr. ben carson and the man you helped elect, the 45th president of the united states of america, presidentonald trump. [applause] in theesident pence: past seven months -- if the past seven months have shown us anything, it is that president donald trump is a man of his word and a man of action. since inauguration, he has been busy keeping the promises he has american.u and every seven months of action, seven months of results and in seven months it will be remembered as the days we began to make america great again. [applause] presidentdent pence: trump's leadership inspires me every single day. while left-wing activists and their allies in the media have been busy ignoring and distorting the facts, american people know the truth. president trump has been relentlessly delivering on the promises he made to the american people and america is back. [applause] vice president pence: under --sident trump usa, usa. vice president pence: under president trump, we are rebuilding our military, restoring the arsenals of democracy. this president has already signed the biggest increase in military sp

dr. carson and his wife cofounded the scholarship fund which recognizes young people of all backgrounds for exceptional academics and two minutes area in accompaniments. -- and humanitarian accomplishments. the fund has recognized more than 7300 scholars and awarded more than $7.3 million in scholarships. he and his wife are the proud parents of three adult sons and three grandchildren. please join me in welcoming to the stage secretary ben carson. [cheering] [applause] sec. carson: thank you. >> we are thrilled to have you here. you are always a great friend of the foundation. conference back in 2013, and we are grateful to have you back here again. i want to start from the beginning. you overcame at some of the most difficult circumstances of your childhood. you are raised by a single mother who instilled in you a inithi education in -- a education, god, and of hard work. what experience has stood out to you so far? carson: my background was tremendously helpful to me, because i wrote in an environment with people of lots of different mindsets. a lot of people with can-do attitudes, and o

dr. ben carson arriving with the president.ow that the housing and urban development office of which dr. carson is in charge is going to play a key role. we also see lindemann handwritten chair of the small business association. , chair of theon small business association. to avoid any potential missteps or criticism for them being not on top of this. vonnie: exactly. a group meeting with some of the local leaders including senator cornyn and the texas governor as well. you pointed out some of the people president brought with him including linda mcmahon in blue. kelly is there as well. a good show of faith from the federal government. it's money that is needed. what will the president do for the state of texas? >> there's two points that i would make. yesterday the president saying in a press conference at the tote house he was committed working with other republicans congress for the impacted areas. this is where it gets interesting. traditionally this has been somewhat of a policy disagreement amongst republican. this is whe

dr. ben carson. pecial man, franklin graham, reverend franklin graham, for leading us in prayer, and thank you to alveda king, the niece of the great dr. martin luther king. [cheers] >> it really shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. >> yeah! >> well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. [cheers] >> where so many thousands of hard-working american patriots. i'd love if the cameras could show this crowd, because it is rather incredible. it is incredible. [cheers] >> it is incredible. does everybody here remember, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? [cheers] the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, that the people said right at the beginning, you know, there's something special happening here, and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates. we love those debates. but we went to center stage and we never left, right? all of us. we did it together. you were there at the start, you've been there every single d

dr. ben and candy carson. he's just written this. i'm going to read this for everyone here in total. "regarding all of the racial and political strife emanating from the events in charlottesville last week. several years ago, we bought a farm in rural maryland. one of the neighbors immediately put up a confederate flag. a friend of ours who was african-american, three star general, was coming to visit and immediately turned around, concluding that he was in the wrong place. interestingly, all the other neighbors immediately put up american flags, shaming the other neighbor, who took down the confederate flag. more recently our home in virginia was vandalized by people who also wrote hateful rhetoric about president trump. we were out of town but other kind, embarrassed neighbors cleaned up most of the mess before we returned. in both instances, less than kind behavior was met by people taking the high road. we could all learn from these examples. hatred and bigotry, unfortunately, still exist in our country, and we must all continue to fight it. but let's use the right tools." it end

dr. ben carson.anklin graham and anita king of the great martin luther king. it shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. so many thousand of hard-working american patriots. i'd love if the cameras can show this crowd because it is rather incredible. as everybody remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, people said at the beginning there's something special happening here and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates and went to center stage and we never left. all of us, we did it together. you've been there at the start and you've been there every single day since and i will never forget -- believe me, arizona, i will never forget. we are fully and totally committed to fighting for our agenda and we will not stop until the job is done. this evening joined together with friends we reaffirm our shared customs, tradition

dr. ben carson. we, of course, saw dr. carson, as well, with the president in phoenix last night.made their way north together on air force one. president trump expected to address the american legion convention at the top of the hour. when that happens, of course, we'll bring it to you live here on msnbc. president trump in reno, nevada. hillary clinton, be meanwhile, was among one of the many targets of president trump's speech in phoenix. not the first time that he's actually gone after secretary clinton since taking office. >> we have the smart ones, we have the toughest ones. great, great americans. and hillary said the deplorables. these are just the opposite. >> if hillary had won, our military would be decimated. our energy would be much more expensive. >> what the prosecutors should be looking at are hillary clinton's 33,000 deleted e-mails. when they talk about hillary clinton spent eight years trying to get -- eight years trying to get health care. >> "morning joe," meanwhile, got its hands on the first excerpts from clinton's highly anticipated upcoming memoir where sh

dr. carson admires, what did he say about the way the president is handled the issue of race in this country. >> well, so, we're talked to -- we're talked to secretary carson. at one p was not willing to critique the president in any form or fashion regardless of getting the endorsement, or the former grand wizard of the kkk, david duke. i pressed him on that. why do you think the former grand wizard thanked president trump for his response to what happened in charlottesville and he essentially said, you know, david duke has his own agenda. this is not on the president and he believes that the president would have been upset by it. in no way did he say the president should have taken different action in the way he responded to white supremacy who are endorsing him on social media, or anything else for that matter. >> can't help but think a lot of people would have like to have heard the president say he was not happy about that. >> and what's also interesting is that secretary carson did say that he felt the pain and could understand the pain of others when it comes to these confederate stat

dr. carson said confederate symbols don't bother him. he says he focuses on bigger problems, preventing war, improving health care and creating jobs. >>> we're want to turn to the weather now, some rain on the radar for some of you tonight and there is more on the way. >> storms tomorrow could be strong, maybe even severe. doug is working for you with the latest timeline and how it might effect the start of our weekend. hi, doug. >> the good thing about this, i think it's going to effect our weekend in a very big way, that big way, pretty good way. lot lower humidity this weekend. take a look. we'ree through the district and prince georges county, montgomery county, those are out of here and we're looking at upper montgomery right around damascus, over towards just to the north seeing some shower activity there and back down to the south, seeing another area of moisture moving in. heads up around marshall right along 66 seeing heavy downpours. we're could see a few more here, loudoun county over the next 1 to 2 hours that's the area i'm

dr. ben carson to be on that stage. also the niece of dr. martin luther king jr., he brought her in. >> call her bernice by accident? because bernice king is tweeting saying i'm not there tonight. >> bernice king is the daughter of dr. king. but this is the niece. he couldn't even say the word gram. i was like wow. and if you're going get on the stage -- i find it interesting armstrong williams just last week in martha's vineyard, he denounced the words of this president. armstrong williams is very close to dr. ben carson. so there's a lot going on here when it comes to the issue of charlottesville. this issue of charlottesville is the alba traus away from the it neck. it's -- and he talked about twitter, talked about us. but i'm looking at how deep charlottesville is. because he kept going on and on. he's trying to change history. we have the tapes, the transcripts and it lives in infamy on social media. so people can see for themselves what he said. it's not about fake media. you can check it for yourself what the president actually said.

dr. ben carson. and thank you to a very, very special man, franklin graham for leaving us in prayer. g. it really shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. i am thrilled be back in phoenix. the great state of arizona. with so many thousands of hardworking american patriots. i would love if the cameras could show this crowd. it's rather incredible. it is incredible. it is incredible. does everybody here remember? this was the scene of my first rally speech. right? [applause] >> president trump: the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight's. the people said right at the beginning, you know, there is something special happening here. we went to center stage. almost from day one in the debates. we love those debates. we want to center stage and we never left. right? we did it together. all of us. you were there at the start. you've been there every single day sense. and i will never forget. believe me, arizona, i will never forget. i'm here tonight to send a message. we are fully and totally committed to fighting for our agenda and we will not stop until the j

dr. ben carson. live coverage here on c-span. we expect president trump in about 20 minutes. >> thank you. thank you so much. it reminds me of the last time i was here campaigning. you are -- you guys are wonderful. i appreciate you. president, thank you for inviting me to this wonderful gathering. and thank you so much for the beautiful people of phoenix and all the hard-working men and women of arizona for hosting us this evening. state -- your state is still bold, energy, generous, and a beautiful -- and beautiful. to visit you here is to remember that the spirit of the frontier lives in america. the west is one of the best examples of the american way, forging a new path, building strong communities that can brave the unknown, and bending together to tackle adversity. that is what americans do. that is what we have always done. that's why we are the can-do people. that's why we rose from nowhere to the pinnacle of the world faster than anyone in history. and that is what president trump believes in, too. and that is our path

dr. ben carson. to a very, very special man, franklin graham, reverend franklin graham for leading us in prayer. and thank you to alvida king, the niece of the great dr. martin luther king. it really shows you that america is indeed, a nation of faith. we know that. well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix, in the great state of arizona. with so many thousands of hard working american patriots. you know, i'd love if the cameras could show this crowd because it is rather incredible. it is incredible. it is incredible. as everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech. right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, that the people said, right at the beginning, you know, there's something special happening here. and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates. we love those debates. but we went to center stage and we never left. right? all of us, we did it together. you were there at the start. you've been there every single day since. and i will never forg

dr. ben carson. >> welcome back to the 11th hour". with that announcement, dr. ave violated the hatch act which prohibits cabinet secretaries from using their post to advocate for political positions. phil bump over at "the washington post" writes in the past the hatch act has served as a warning that an administration may be entering a dangerous area but "with an administration that's breaking norms with regularity, it's a bit like a smoke detector going off in a building near the epicenter of a nuclear blast." with that to explain how all this works, joining us again is richard painter, former chief ethics lawyer for george w. bush and vice chair of citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. an organization otherwise known as crew. counselor, i know the hatch act is everything to people in the job you occupied in the white house. for a lay audience, explain its importance. is it ever enforced, and how would it fit in this circumstance? what did he violate? >> well, a federal official may not use his official position, including his official title, to

dr. ben carson and franklin grant. president got -- the first seven months, however appealing and replaced went. he moves on. >> kimberly: he's on a roll. >> greg: he should rip you to shreds. >> brian: is he always this angry, dana? >> juan: >> dana: apparently itt you. >> brian: we are minutes away from the president's appearance in phoenix. going well so far. when you have allergies, it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. luckily there's powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin. it provides relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 different allergens. live claritin clear. it's time for the biggest sale of the year with the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your every move and automatically adjusts on both sides to keep you effortlessly comfortable. and snoring.... does your bed do that? the new 360 smart bed is part of our biggest sale of the year where all beds are on sale. and right now save 50% on the labor day limited edition bed, plus free home delivery. ends saturday! she pretty much li

dr. carson pulled ahead and yet nobody in the media could say to themselves, if he's the front-runner in every single poll could it be he's the front-runner? [laughter] everybody knew he couldn't be the front-runner because then everything he believed would be crazy and since they couldn't be crazy yet to be crazy and if he was crazy you can be the front-runner even though he was the front-runner. so i'm in a situation where i'm watching the so-called experts who by the way have learned nothing. the stuff you get on tv today is as stupid and as wrong as the people who will laugh when they announce and laughed in the primaries the people who laughed at the convention and the people who laughed in the general election. it's a repudiation of their own life so their choice is i can believe in the fantasy which at least validates me right inside the world has changed dramatically and that in validates me. that's literally where we are right now. where seeing how the dance continues for the next three years because i think gradually what trump will figure out an angle to break out of all of th

dr. ben carson., for the introduction. as well as my friend, dr. ben carson. and thank you to a very, very special man, franklin gram, reverend franklin gram. for leading us in prayer. and thank you to the niece of the great martin luther king, junior. it shows you that america is indeed a fashion of faitnation . we know that. i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. where so many thousandis of hardworking american patriots. i would love if the cameras could show this crowd, because it is rather incredible. it is incredible. [ cheers and applause ] >> okay. we're back to the cameras show the crowd piece of a trump speech. this is all very familiar territory. we're monitoring the speech. and we will go to it if he raises anything that is within the news of the day. so david k. johnston, this report says that the president was yelling, swearing at the senate majority leader, for not controlling the senate investigations of donald trump's campaign and his involvement with russia. >> well, that may, as was pointed out, may well be a crimin

dr. ben carson. live coverage here on c-span. we expect president trump in about 20 minutes. >> thank you. thank you so much. you

dr. ben carson. a very, very , ecial man, franklin graham for leading us in prayer, and thank you to alvta king, the niece of the great dr. martin luther king. it really shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state f arizona! where so many thousands of hard-working american patriots. i would love if the cameras could show this crowd because it is rather incredible. t is incredible. as everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, that the people said right at the beginning, you know, there's something special happening here. and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates, we love those debates. but we went to center stage and we never left, right? all of us. we did it together. you were there at the start, you've been there every single day since, and i will never forget, believe me, arizona, i will never forget. and i'm her

carson. this year, dr. ben carson was sworn in as the 17th secretary

dr. ben carson, an african-american is a white supremacist. come on.charlie: that's why i don't take any of it that seriously. average voter looks at this and they think they are watching a carnival unfold in the u.s. capitol. it's insane. tammy hit the nail on the head when she talked about the fact these people are not talking about steve bannon or donald trump. they are talking about the people who support them. they are calling those people racist. i can't think of anything more despicable or disgusting than looking into somebody else's heart and declaring you know they are a racist when there is no evidence to to suggest anything like that. nancy pelosi just discovered 15 years after she became speaker of the house that there are confederate statues in the capitol and she want them taken out. david: you have mitt romney essentially saying everybody from the other side, beside the racist and kkk protesting, they were all peaceful. there was nothing wrong with them. when in fact the police chief of charlottesville said they were mutual combatants. i

dr. ben carson.anklin graham and anita king of the great martin luther king. it shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. so many thousand of hard-working american patriots. i'd love if the cameras can show this crowd because it is rather incredible. as everybody remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, people said at the beginning there's something special happening here and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates and went to center stage and we never left. all of us, we did it together. you've been there at the start and you've been there every single day since and i will never forget -- believe me, arizona, i will never forget. we are fully and totally committed to fighting for our agenda and we will not stop until the job is done. this evening joined together with friends we reaffirm our shared customs, tradition

dr. ben carson.anklin graham and anita king of the great martin luther king. it shows you that america is indeed a nation of faith. we know that. well, i'm thrilled to be back in phoenix in the great state of arizona. so many thousand of hard-working american patriots. i'd love if the cameras can show this crowd because it is rather incredible. as everybody remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right? the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight, people said at the beginning there's something special happening here and we went to center stage almost from day one in the debates and went to center stage and we never left. all of us, we did it together. you've been there at the start and you've been there every single day since and i will never forget -- believe me, arizona, i will never forget. we are fully and totally committed to fighting for our agenda and we will not stop until the job is done. this evening joined together with friends we reaffirm our shared customs, tradition

dr. ben carson, him and his wife are wonderful friends and colleagues.f, my father before me, so many others. and it's an intellectual totalitarianism that is spreading more and more. it's not just punishing blacks, it's punishing this who want to honor our constitution and our heritage and our legacy, and it's something that i think the american people should take deadly serious. those so-called never trumpers within the republican party need to understand that there's more at stake than just donald trump. this is bigger than just donald trump. david: well said. it's great to see you, niger. >> great to see you, david. thank you. david: by the way, i have a recommendation for your reading list something called putin's gambet. it's coauthor james bored. fans of the show are loving it. callene tweeted this was a great read and easy read. honestly, i couldn't put it down, especially toward the end. i love it. now, every viewer whose comment is read on the show will receive a signed copy of lou's book. this reenactment of the october 2016 presidential debat

dr. ben carson's home was targeted with hateful trump rhetoric.atie forest joins me from new hampshire. genie, this is, it seemed like what the left is trying to do. they're trying to taint everyone in your party as somehow nazi sympathizer, or a white supremacist. do you feel you are under attack as a republican? >> yeah, absolutely. i think that democrats really know how to bully, and we're seeing that here. we saw that two days ago when they vandalized our state party headquarters by, as you described, spray painting the word nazis with, encircled by a heart on the wall of our building. by throwing a rock through the glass of the window and breaking pains. -- panes. this kind of behavior is simply not acceptable type of behavior. trish: isn't this identity who picks? isn't it out of the playbook? this is how they trying to excite their base? >> yes. i think that is probably what they're trying to do. i, i think the republicans, republican governor and leadership responding appropriately and by condemning the acts, by refusing to be bullied by t

dr. ben carson. secretary, thanks for being her here. hud will play a key role. there are people facing a real housing crisis. >> a lot of times people think about hud further down the road but we are involved at the beginning working vigorously with fema. we have many people allocated to work with them. recognizing people are in distress right now. that's one of the reasons we are helping states and local officials reallocate some of the funding they have toward disaster relief. one of the reasons we've put a sensation on many foreclosure proceedings, mortgage insurance. rehabilitation insurance. making loans available, section 108 loans. those kinds of things make a big difference and also determining where the units are that are available. we have staff out making sure where those are, determining where the people are however that helped by hud programs. and then matching those up. working very vigorously with fema. >> bret: we have seen something like this, but this seems historic. back when hurricane katrina. how long it took to iron out some of those issues