joining us now steve clemens and john fund, columnist for the "national review" john, so imagine yourself in the room with drssinger and candidate donald trump. here is someone who has said could use nuclear weapons in the middle east, it's okay with me if japan gets nuclear weapons so we don't have to spend so much money defending areas of the world like japan, that he's going to sit down with north korea and on and on and on. what would dr. kissinger have said? >> well, dr. kissinger knows donald trump and if you know donald trump you know that if you don't like something he says, wait five minutes, he'll say something different and if you do like something he says, wait five minutes, he'll say something different. donald trump has now said, for example, on the muslim ban to the united states "it was only a suggestion. i changed my mind. i change my mind all the time." so i think if donald trump was smart, he just listened to dr. kissinger, maybe took notes. if he wasn't smart he talked a great deal. >> steve, give me you're -- what you would guess henry kissinger in an hour with donald trump would say to