dr. cockburn comment on this, but you mentioned for a moment this is not something that he can support. i cannot support it at this time either. and i would ask you to consider. i ask you to consider withdrawing this amendment at this time and give us a chance to work with you. we will be happy to try to do that. >> i appreciate that. quite frankly, this is a pretty simple issue. it is pretty clear cut. either you is eluate. and i just assume have a vote on it. it goes down it goes down. if it passes, which i hope it does to my can live with that even better. >> with that in mind any other comment on this? raking member, if i could. >> if you suppose we really don't need to hear from them. [laughter] >> mr. chairman, if you go to north dakota and introduce you to those x cost of delivering our mail. >> introduce it to anybody. >> dr. culver, offered the opportunity. ask him if he would consider withdrawing his amendment this time. i did make some good points. he said he would rather move it upper down and he can live with either. even if it goes down, and i think it will. >> we want pos