dr. craigin suggested ways to learn more. i'd like to ask our first two witnesses what strategies do you think we, the united states government, this subcommittee, should undertake to intervene at the right moment to prevent acts of terror by people like the list i just read against the united states? >> thank you, chairman harman. i think there are a lot of good ideas expressed by all of the witnesses here today. today. i would reiterate our point that you start with the violence and not the ideology. adding to the list, we could add any number of ku klux klan whether underground, or any examples of terrorist action within our country. by starting with the ideology and saying you will define and examine those acts, you are predetermining the outcome and your conclusions will cast dispersions on the muslims. >> i agree with the definition of the problem. what's the solution? >> to start with a different universe of actions. you look at what moves different people in different contexts from a nonviolent to a violent situation.

dr. craigin suggested ways to learn more. i'd like to ask our first two witnesses what strategies do you think we, the united states government, this subcommittee, should undertake to intervene at the right moment to prevent acts of terror by people like the list i just read against the united states? >> thank you, chairman harman. i think there are a lot of good ideas expressed by all of the witnesses here today. today. i would reiterate our point that you start with the violence and not the ideology. adding to the list, we could add any number of ku klux klan whether underground, or any examples of terrorist action within our country. by starting with the ideology and saying you will define and examine those acts, you are predetermining the outcome and your conclusions will cast dispersions on the muslims. >> i agree with the definition of the problem. what's the solution? >> to start with a different universe of actions. you look at what moves different people in different contexts from a nonviolent to a violent situation.