dr. crosse and mr.dempske, this event, going back to what this event shows us is that while we're trying to respond at a managerial level are you familiar with the private sector's involvement with the medical counter measures, development and procurement? are either of you involved in that at all? >> i have done some past work looking at how the government built the flexible manufacturing facilities to be able to respond and those are private sector entities. >> dr. dempske? >> i'm sorry i have nothing to add. >> i might have a little bit of time with respect to the death certificate. is it -- building on congressman mull lynn's question about the death certificate, could both of you please explain with a little more detail how that process works and how that process works, what is required to be placed on the death certificate. and if you are sending these spores to another lab, what is it that the one lab should have that the other lab then -- what is common in looking at the death certificate? is th

dr. crosse you indicated that you would give them a b once it was discovered. but mr. demske you didn't get notified until yesterday to investigate the problem that was discovered in may isn't that correct? >> that's correct. yes. >> so we've got at least 60 days since the problem was discovered before you were notified. isn't that true? >> i don't >> yes. >> i don't consider that a b or acting reasonably, do you? >> well we're not the front lines of an emergent situation. that would have to go do the fda and the scientists with the cdc, so it is normal for cdc to do investigative work on its own before it would refer a matter to us. and that actually helps us, because the evidence is more >> so you think 60 days is reasonable before you're notified to do your investigation? >> yes. >> okay. and as a part of that they're doing their investigations and so forth, but don't you think it's kind interesting that you got notified yesterday? do you think that our hearing might have sped ha time up a little bit? >> i have no information about that. >> but when you filed your t

dr. crosse? >> i'm pleased to be here today to cuss gao's work. the biosafety and biosecurity practices in these laboratories are intended to reduce the exposure to biological agents and prevent their loss, theft, or misuse. the recent shipments of live anthrax bacteria from dod to u.s. and international laboratories, similar to last year's potential exposures of cdc personnel to live anthrax bacteria shows multiple brake downs in compliance with established policies and inadequate oversight of high containment laboratories. this is another example in an ongoing series of safety lapses which continue to occur often with the same root cause as for prior incidents. we've been lucky so far. researchers in these labs work with high-risk biological agents that may result in serious or lethal infections, and in some instances have the potential to be used in biological weapons. these labs do important work with pathogens to develop vaccines and countermeasures and to understand emerging infectious diseases. however, the pathogens handled by these labora

. >> reporter: dr. cross says it is important for younger students to keep the momentum going. >> you don't want to have really pushed it and tried to learn to read and then do nothing for two and a half months because they really do fall behind. >> reporter: along with reading about 30 minutes a day, experts say parents should encourage children to write often over the summer, maybe keeping a journal or writing letters. take time for reviewing school assignments from previous year. it's important to find a balance. >> it's fun when it's not always one thing. >> reporter: mixing in critical learning with a healthy dose of summer fun. chris martinez, cbs news, los angeles. >> experts say to check out museums and community centers for free fun learning programs during the summer break. >>> you are taking a live look at the big board now. it looks like the dow is having a bad day, down by 102 points. in greece investors are waking up to a financial hangover after greece rejected the european union's terms for fi

. >> dr. crossou talk to your testimony how people could be infected and even an epidemic could be started if you had a very blunt agent. >> corrected edition we have national security implications regarding the mishandling of these agents. >> that is also a concern. >> if they got into the wrong hands. >> you had a lot of recommendations that have not been fully implemented yet? >> the primary one is to have a more centralized oversight. >> to have the single entity to set the standards for all agencies? >> dr. what is your agency's opinion of the single federal entities? >> i will say within the department we will do that interlay. >> why haven't we done that? why haven't you implemented that in cooperation with your fellow agencies? >> we are in discussions now on these issues. >> you don't disagree with the idea of? >> what is your agency view? >> the cdc works with usda as if we are with one program. redo a joint inspections whenever a changes proposed were considered it is discussed with the a

dr. crosse's agencies is recommending one single oversight agency that would set forth the protocols for the dispensing of these agents. and so i am asking each of your agencies if you would object to that kind of -- it would make sense to get one protocol no matter which lab is dispensing it. what is your view on that? >> thank you. my view is that it is a complex decision. there are constraints to having one standard for all procedures. >> what would those be? >> for example, with anthrax, there are many different uses of the product. dna for developing vaccines -- >> if you are sending it around you don't want it to be live. that is not something to subject to debate. if you could have one agency coming up with protocols about oversight on how you will make it not be life and dispense it you would not object to that? >> i would not object and believe the select agent program would be the appropriate body to do that. >> could that have oversight over the dod too? >> absolutely. >> do you think you might cooperate to make that happen? >> we will cooperate in any way. >> let us know what

dr. crosse, you talked in your testimony how people could be infected and even some epidemic could be startedf you got a particularly purulent agents that got released correct? in addition national security implications related to the mishandling of agents. is that also correct? >> that is also a concern. >> that is that these agents got into the wrong hands, right? >> that's right. >> you have recommendations not fully implemented yet. >> many recommendations have taken action. the primary one but no movement is perhaps some type of more centralized oversight. >> to have a single federal entity to set the standards for all the agencies, is that right? dr. hassell what is your agency's recommendation for the federal entity? >> i will say in the department itself will do that internally. >> if that makes sense in many ways, why haven't we done that? why haven't you implemented that in cooperation with your fellow agencies? >> like i say we are going to do that internally. we are in discussions now on these issues. >> you don't disagree? >> no, ma'am. >> dr. sosin, what is your view of this? >>

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dr. elizabeth car nikki of texas was crossing the street when she was run over by the sight seeing vehicle operated by ride the ducks. witnesses said she was looking down at a tablet and she was hit. the driver was foot charged. however, lawyers for the victim's family say today they will announce a major development in their investigation. now, those are the same attorneys who represented the families of two hungarian tourists who died in a duck boat accident in 2010. five years ago today a ride the ducks vehicle was rammed by a barge on the delaware river. the families of the two victims split a $15 million settlement. >>> 4:06 now. this morning, investigators continue looking for the cause of this fire. just before 6:00 last night, payless shoe stores on south 69th street went up in flames. crews had to evacuate about two dozen nearby homes. >> it's been -- we've had a good track record with 69th street has been better than 15 18 years since we've had any type of a fire in our stores an 69th street. >> an nbc 10 viewer sent us this video of the fire there through instagram. there were n

dr. wilson: i hope we have crossed it. critical. i would not have started the company if those did not eggs this. -- exist. being a professor, i know how to write proposals. i will add the university of maryland has been very supportive to forming companies and has developed a lot of programs. one i joined where you have people who have been entrepreneurs several times. they are there to it lies you to write a business plan and help you think like a business person. faxed that goes to -- >> that goes efficientcy of what you are doing. sometimes you have people trying to reinvent thate wheel, and they don't know how to do it. >> that is the goal of the i corps program being developed. i wasn't able to take advantage of that program but one of the main things they have, people who are entrepreneurs do is to test the market. and understand what the market needs. often we develop technology only to find there is nobody who want that take knowledge he. -- technology. backs>> how efficient are they at hitting that to market? >> it depends

dr. king said that some cities had to bear the cross for the rest of america and st. augustine was one of those cities. so i think the fact that st. augustine and what happened here was messy, it was violent, the fact that st. augustine is a small town and a lot of people here know each other and remember which side of the proverbial street they were on in 1964 and 1965 has made it really hard to digest in terms of what happened here, why was it important and what is the true legacy of the st. augustine movement? and i think that does a disservice to the movement. because st. augustine represents the movement as a whole in my opinion. it was not a -- an easy to understand movement. it's a movement that is still influences activities, beliefs, feelings today. so i think just like in many other parts of history, we do ourselves a disservice by ignoring what happened, we do ourselves a disservice by not focusing more on st. augustine as what we can learn about the movement. it -- progression. it's focus. and most important, it's legacy. >> on the next washington journal,

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dr. ger concluded he was insane. the district attorney exacting cross examination was an attack on her credentials. >> you are not possessfication in sidewalk tree. >> i was not going to ask that but do you? >> no. >> he critized the report. >> that information resulted in a report that was 15 pages long correct? >> i think you yes. >> her methodology and accuracy is a running theme for the prosecutions. >> doctor you created that quote. >> yes. >> what other quotes did you find in your report finding him insane. you don't put in the report of 2013 or any of your notes that discussion you had with the defendant. >> we spend a day of saying what i didn'tut approximate in the report. ndefense attorney tried to re-establish the witness' credible. >> is he a psychologist? >> over ruled. >> and if she knows or not. >> she knows he's not. >> the jorwill not hear from him. >> have you made a discussion as to whether or not if you will testify. >> i choose not to testify. >> the defense called an investigator for the public defender's office who introduced surveillance video of holmes in the cell slamming his head against the wa

dr. clifford: diseases that can cross from animals to people. this one does not, thank goodness. rep. newhouse: good question. mr. kelly has a broiler industry in mississippi. apparently there are no infected herds detected. -- infected birds detected. his question is why having been broilers detected? maybe they just do a great job in mississippi as far as control? dr. clifford: i think it is age-related. most of the birds infected have been older than that. one of the opportunities for managing the virus has been early marketing of birds, particularly turkeys and parts of the midwest. some have gone to market much sooner than they would ordinarily. those are our thoughts in north carolina. i will defer to my usda colleagues. >> it is interesting to note that did happen in minnesota. we had broilers where there was infection. they were never affected at all. i think chickens are a little harder to be affected. it takes a higher dose and they do not transmit it as much as much. the age factor was there as well. >> if i may make a quick comment, there are two factors that have impacted

dr. elizabeth karnicki of texas was run over by a sight seeing vehicle when crossing the street.it was operated by a company called ride the ducks. witnesses say karnicki was walking against a red light, looking at her tablet when she was hit. today, lawyers say they'll announce a major development in their investigation. they are the attorneys who represented the families of two hungarian tourists who died in the duck boat accident in 2010. five years ago today, the boat was rammed by a barge on the delaware river. >>> know your flood risk. that's the message from the federal government to people in philadelphia. today new flood maps will be displayed to the public. city officials will hole an open house at south philadelphia high school from 4:00 to 8:00. people can get a look at the new fema flood maps. they highlight flood-prone areas in the city and are used by insurance companies to determine rates for homes and bullings. >>> now your nbc 10 first alert weather with meteorologist bill henley. >> 6:37. the sun has been up for almost an hour now. you can see breaks in the clo

dr. seuss. ♪ mark: welcome back. i'm mark crumpton in new york. some of the top stories crossingloomberg terminal at this hour. economic news to begin this half hour. economic prices rose at a slower price -- home prices rose at a slower pace in may. that is less than what economist projected. the slower weight -- rate of appreciation may make it easier first time homebuyers. the index from the conference board fell to 90.9 this month. down from a revised figure through june. the new reading fell well short of the average forecast of .conomists polled by bloomberg david einhorn's big bet on gold looking more ill-advised by the minute. the president of green line capital -- greenlight capital been bullish on the price for years. 7.6% for third straight year. the green light main hedge fund is living. now to greece where the athens stock exchange is a step closer to reopening. formarket has been close more than four weeks. the european central bank has set up on proposals that set new ground rules for trading. now it is up to the country's finance minister to decide when the exchan

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crosses the mediterranean, hundreds storm the tunnel in france and u.k. >> i want a kitty. >> i want a pup. >> reporter: what pet should i get. we tell but a posthumous book by dr seuss >>> pakistani police say they are shocked at the death of a leader behinds a group responsible for hundreds of killings, he's killed in a shoot-out with security in punjab. 13 others were killed and clearly two of his sons. he is on the list of terrorist organizations in countries including the u.s., britain, india and russia. they claimed responsibility for attacks on muslims. malic was accused of blocking the attack on the sri lankan team in lahore. he faced several murder trials but has always been acquitted. >> let's talk to our correspondent in the pakistan capital, islamabad. this must be welcome news for the pakistan security forces. >> that's right. pakistan security forces have been launching a large campaign against these groups since september last year when we had the attack in the army school. it's a significant figure to have been taken out. this happened actually he was rearrested only a week ago, and the security forces had been moving him from his detention cent

crossed the mediterranean make it to italy. >>> i want to debt a kitty. >> i want a puppy. >>> what pet would you get? find out about a new posthumous book eye children's author, drseuss. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> but first pakistani police say they have shot dead the leader the banned group which is behind hundreds of killings in the country. he was killed in a shootout with security forces in the one jab reampunjabregion things others were killed including two of his sons. the group is on the terrorist organizations of many countries including the u.s., britain and russia. it claims responsibility for many a attacks on shia muslims. he was accused of plotting the two thon nine attack on the she sri lankan cricket team. he faced several murderer charges but has always been acquitted because victims refuse today show up. what more do we know about the demise of the leader of this group. >> reporter: it was certainly a night of high action and drama in southern punjab. what happened is he had been taken from his descension center along with his two sons after they were rearrested aid week ago. they were giving the counter tear only unit information about explosives and weapons. t

dr. chen, good to see you again. >> i mean, i think the big decision that families have to make when they embark on cross-sex hormones is that now you're not hitting a pause button, right? so when you move on to cross-sex hormones, you're now initiating medical therapy where some of the changes that are going to take place are permanent. and that's a whole other, like ball of wax, i think, for some of these families, and that can be really hard. so when we think about medications, if we're going to go with the route of medications, there's two kinds. one are medications that sort of block progression through puberty. the other medicines that you could use would be right to going to sort of what we call cross-sex hormones, or in this case it would be sort of testosterone. >> there are plenty of drugs that get approved by the fda and everybody goes on their merry way and thinks things are great, and then two years later, people are dropping dead from one thing or another. >> and this is really important, so i'm actually going to pull up a stool so i can sit and face you. so testosterone as a medication has been around

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dr. david markenson is a emergency response advisor with the red cross. >> you call 9-1-1.> i heard if somebody is having a heart attack give them aspirin aspirin. >> the most important thing to keep blood pumping to the heart. >> do you force feed aspirin? >> if they are awake and can swallow give it to them. the most thing is an aed. >> automatic external defibrillate defibrillator. >> most places have one but most people don't know where they are. >> i think i know ours is. >> can you show me? >> i think -- it's this way. >> winding the halls i'm struggling. is it in here? it's not. >> i could have sworn it was around here but i'm wrong. finally, it is right here. got it. how long was that? that was way too long. >> 1:43 to be exact. the victim could have died. >> anyone can use an aed. why don't you try to see how easy it is. >> put it on. apply pads. the pads even have photo bombs wrf you're supposed to put them. this one goes here and this one is supposed to go here. >> plug-in connecter. analyzing heart rhythm. do not touch the patient. shocked a ed aed a ed aed a ed

dr. segal. good morning. >> i'm going to quiz you again. you ready? >> do we have a choice? >> crossp you remember things keep you sharp? >> no. >> tucker right. fiction. >> why did my grandma do 80 years then? >> they helped her with cross word puzzles. a little part of the brain. next one. closing your eyes helps memory fact or fiction? >> come on. >> fact. >> fiction. >> that's actually fact. elisabeth is right. there's a issuestudy that shows if you're tried for a crime, you close your eyes. you're more likely to remember the fact. >> you're more likely to remember your alibi. >> you're zoning out distractions. >> that's a good point. >> close your eyes when trying to remember. number three. exercising does that keep your mind fit? everybody is right about that. it improves blood flow to the brain, nutrients to the brain. it is really good for improving brain function. that's what i recommend for everyone. get out in the morning and exercise. number four we use 10% of our brains. >> heard that a million times. >> that's in animal house. that's true. >> steve is right. that's fict

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dr. king. bailey was a respected figure in the city of memphis crossed all boundaries in the city, economic racial and all because of his gigantic intellect. many members in the house asked me about his housing. he had an effect on this country and an effect on this city. his was a life well lived and he will be missed. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from tennessee, mr. duncan, for five minutes. mr. duncan: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, yesterday i participated in a hearing on criminal justice reform before the oversight and government reform committee. a second hearing is being held today on this issue in the same committee. both hearings conservatives and liberals are joining together to urge that we stop or at least try to slow the growth of our federal police state. conservative columnist george will wrote a few months ago said that quote, overcriminalization has become a national plague. paul larkin, senior research wrote in "the washington times," quote, perhaps there are 4500 federal offenses and more tha

dr. crosse, you indicated that you would give them a b once it was discovered. but mr. demp ski, you didn't get notified until yesterday to investigate the problem that was discovered in may, is that correct?? >> that is correct. >> we've got at least 60 days since the problem wasdy covered before you were notified. isn't that true? >> yes. >> i don't consider that a b or acting reasonably, do you? >> well, we're not at the front -- we're not the front lines of an emergent situation. that would have to go to the fda