dr. david malibranch, assistant professor at emory. >> you're referred to as a former gay paster.you were formerly gay. >> take out the pastor part, i'm formerly gay. >> that speaks to an important issue in the black community, part of the debate is whether it's a choice or not. where do you stand on that? >> obviously for me, it's not about choice. it's about the option to change. in this country and in worldwide, this you know, changes happen all the time. so to me, this is just another thing on the spectrum that can change. >> i'm looking at your face right now. >> yeah, i think we need to move beyond this conversation. like is gay a choice or not. that's probably 2000 -- whatever. at this point in our community, we have to start talking about other deeper issues, as far as why people choose not to be who they are, or why they choose it. because you can't really predict what you're attracted to. the difference is between behavior, identity, those kind of things. so you know wirks don't we get into more nuanced conversation, about whether we talk about it's a choice. it's very p