. >> dr. dick said that people who were not approved were able to handle select agents, were able to access space containing potential anthrax, four days after the incident was discovered. my assumption is the scientist and the it's a pretty smart people but it's actually distributed think they are not thinking of this -- well, let me ask this. it's been weeks since you learned about the march 2014 cd shipment of h. five in one influence the. .. >> that lets people know when thers been a problem there? >> there are multiple alarm systems within cdc. in this case, it was a cross-contamination of a culture. so somehow, and we haven't figured out how yet, a relatively low virulence avian influenza was cross-contaminated with the highly pathogenic h5n1. >> is there any evidence of cover up here from employees not wanting to let someone else know that -- >> no. we've seen at this point no evidence of a cover up, but we do see the need to strengthen the culture of safety that encourages reporting. anytim

or dr. dick, in light of the anthrax incident investigation, aphis recently completed, do you think that prior inspections of c.d.c. laboratories were sufficient? >> do i. >> ok. -- >> i do. >> ok. >> given that agents were stored in undesignated places, shouldn't such problems come to full light prior to inspections? >> yeah, i think the important thing to recognize is when we review their protocols, the protocols were in place. and because of the primary cause of this incident, and that was that these -- this bacteria was not inactivated, it was transferred to a laboratory that was not necessarily would have a locked cabinet. so therefore when we provide our report on select agents, as was indicated earlier, we also report on those laboratories were that select agent went. in this case, not deactivated. >> ok. all right. well, that concludes my questions, mr. chairman. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: thank you. now recognize mr. long for five minutes -- >> thank yo

frieden, or for you, dr. dick, if it's determined that a dangerous biological agent has been stolen, who do you report that to? >> sir, we have a protocol for dealing with theft. there has been no theft of biological agent reported from either c.d.c. or any of the regulated facilities in the 10 years of the program, to my knowledge. when there are concerns for potential theft or misplacement, we work with law enforcement, including the f.b.i., to do a joint investigation. i would just mention that our expansion of surprise inspections was something that we had erected over the last few years at c.d.c. because we felt it was important to do. >> so you say there have been no reports of stolen agents? >> that's my understanding. >> what about missing biological agents? >> there have been losses at certain facilities and in those circumstances we also coordinate with the f.b.i. usually it's an issue of inventory control. so earlier we were talking about critical control points, such as inactivation of virulent pathoge

frieden, or for you, dr. dick, if it's determined that a dangerous biological agent has been stolen, who do you report that to? >> sir, we have a protocol for dealing with theft. there has been no theft of biological agent reported from ither c.d.c. or any of the regulated facilities in the 10 years of the program, to my knowledge. when there are concerns for potential theft or misplacement, we work with law enforcement, including the f.b.i., to do a joint investigation. i would just mention that our expansion of surprise inspections was something that we had erected over the last few years at c.d.c. because we felt it was important to do. >> so you say there have been no reports of stolen agents? >> that's my understanding. >> what about missing biological agents? >> there have been losses at certain facilities and in those circumstances we also coordinate with the f.b.i. usually it's an issue of inventory control. so earlier we were talking about critical control points, such as inactivation of virulent pathogen

kingsbury and dr. dick, you believe the moratorium and lab closure an appropriate response to this incident, don't you? >> yes, i do. >> okay. we should not forget today that the reason cdc conducts their special agent research is to help keep americans -- american public safe. cdc serves a critical role for studying dangerous pathogens and finding cures and vaccines for deadly diseases. these labs are critical to our nation's response to bioterrorism threats. so i am interested in learning about how this moratorium and the lab closures are affecting the critical research these labs were conducting. dr. frieden, how did the moratorium and lab closures limit cdc's research capabilities. what happens to the studies, some of which i'm guessing were operating on detailed schedules that were being conducted in the labs. >> we're looking at the moratorium in detail and identifying any laboratories which need to resume transfers for individual patient care or for public health response with highest priority. and w

dr. jerry dick. associate administrator within usda. we conducted a thorough inspection of the incident to learn how it happened and determine appropriate remedial measures. we will continue to monitor the c.d.c.'s response to ensure all necessary corrective action is taken and that when work resumes at the laboratories, it will be done in full compliance with the health and safety of the employees and the public at the forefront. usda was designated as a partner with cdc in the oversight of select agents because of our expertise and experience safely working with select agents over the past entry through our efforts to prevent diseased agents from impacting u.s. agriculture ap the environment. for decades, it has safely operated high containment laboratories that handle select agents including those for concern for human health. our personnel and experts in the effective of high containment laboratories. to ensure objectivity, we signed a memorandum of understanding in october of 2012, which makes aphus is the lead agency. -- lead insp

and our legislation supports his executive order and makes it clear that the dick amendment did not research for gun safety. >> dr. rosenburg, the cdc has not been funded to do anything on gun safety since the 1990s. but you have written that we have spent billions of dollars since the 1970s on70s on prevention of traffic deaths. could the same help in this situation? >> obviously it could. obviously, jay dickey has over the years become a friend and we've both influenced each other and we both agree that this research is so important. it is a matter of life and death and jay dickey would today say that was a mistake and we need to do everything we can to get the research going again. >> an important discussion considering how many people are dying, and i appreciate you two joining us today. >>> americans spend billions on health and diet products, how are we supposed to know what to buy and eat these days? countless mixed messages about what's good for us, what's bad for us, certainly not more than in the last couple of weeks. focusing on saturated fats, red wine or dark chocolate or gluten is a poison or gluten

dr. linda bowman, former president of the community college. barry served with secretary of defense dickheney, retiring as a two star general. he and bowman faced big challenges in aurora. less than half of students were going on to college when berry signed on in 2006. >> we were losing way too many people when it came to realizing their potential, and we brainstormed. >> bowman and berry decided to get aurora students of all stripes into free college classes. >> sometimes it's one of those things where it's so high, the college, getting them to go to college. why don't you take this one course. once they get past that and they can pass it, they realize this is not a mountain they can't climb. >> but at the time colorado state law allowed only juniors and seniors in high school to take just two college classes per semester. so bowman and others advised then governor bill richer to change the laws, a new measure sailed through the state legislature 100-0. still, bowman and berry faced a huge challenge, integrating two massive bureaucracies with tens of thousands of faculty and students.

dr. cassidy was mentioning we're now hearing it is not really a tax but is a fee. dickoes to a fund but it seems what they're doing doing, they're not sure who to blame and i find it so interesting one of the biggest complaints we get is about insurance cost and access and an era networks and everything costs more then people will say now we hear the insurance companies want to you to bail them now. don't you dare bail them out. if you were with me in my district that is what you would hear. much of this is based on the failed program. and i know mr. haislmaier you have look dash up that program and i know that it thrills he has grown weary with me. the failure of that program with the democratic governor to take it down it was too expensive to afford some mr. haislmaier who pays all these taxes and fees or regulation tax is zorach says fees and who eventually pays all of this? finigan consumer does when they purchase through their tax bill. >> in those letters showing the insurance costs to the consumer would be reduced 2500 you find this anywhere? >> my colleague publ

dr. evil from austin powers's to baby boomers like me, he looks like daddy warbucks from "little orphan annie." on talk radio, this is not a hot topic. >> seeing a reversal here. here's dick to go by the bush moon u scrimanuscript, don't cre the commander in chief. he says i don't play by that rule. i say what i think. yet when bush was president, anybody who criticized president bush, was emboldening the entity. >> anti-american. >> that's right. anti-american. so john, where are we on this? >> well, it's funny. back then it was under hannity speak, can't criticize the demander in chief during wartime. of course we haven't legally declared war in this country since 1941. a bit flexible. telling that mary cheney didn't show up. i was hoping she would, because it would have given mary and dick a chance to thank all of the liberals who made mary's marriage possible. of course, the fact is, there's a lot of friction in the family, because liz cake out against her own sister's marriage. dick cheney gets credit. i don't think he deserves for supporting marriage equality. held a fund-raiser at his high omming home for mitt romney, wanted to make his own daughter's marriage ille

i conducted an orchestra for dick clark standing on a bunch of phone books. in this room i stand on the bible. dr.? >> thank you, as co-chair of the creative rights caucus i firmly believe that artists should be fairly compensated across all platforms but we know this is not the case in the u.s. in fact, let me tell you about the story of yanita who provides a contrast between finland and u.s. she is recording artist originally from finland. she lived there her first 18 years. became a professional singer at a young age in her home country. she was paid for her performances on the radio in finland which was about a third of her income. then she moved to new york when she was 17 to take the next steps in her career. she achieved success with having two "billboard" magazine top 40 u.s. radio hits but was shocked to find out that the u.s. didn't pay artists for radio airplay. she thought perhaps finland was an exception in paying artists and the rest of the world didn't pay artists their radio royalties. but it turns out that it was the other way around. the u.s. was the exception in not paying radi

dr. frank cannon in the back of the room. >> you spent five years living with in addition to the vice president living with james madison. >> and the other 45 to dick>> can you talk about writing a book like this and where the papers and did you talk to madison descendents and if you could ask james madison one question that emerge from your research what would that question be? >> that last is just really a puzzler. i have to think about that while we talk. the madison papers are in different places. you have to travel a little bit. you have to go to princeton for example because they were unpublished papers there. you have to go to philadelphia. there are unpublished papers about madison's family in the historical society both 30 volumes of madison's papers are on line. they have been digitized and done a wonderful job of digitizing them. dolley's papers as well have been done by the university of virginia. research is so much easier now than it has been before. i think -- i was chairman of the national endowment for the humanities at a time and i used to be appalled at some of the things that we funded but if they were to increase the endowment

dr. dick, your next. make sure the microphone is on and very close to your mouth. thank you. it's not on. the green light, there you go. thank you. >> thank you and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today about the animal and plant health inspection services inspection into the release of possibly live anthrax at the cdc's campus. i'm doctor jere dick, associate administrator for aphis within usda. aphis conducted a thorough inspection of the incident to learn how it happened and determine appropriate remedial measures. we will continue to monitor the cdc's response to ensure all necessary corrective action is taken. and that when work resumes at the laboratories it will be done in full compliance with the health and safety of employees and the public at the forefront. usda was designated by congress as the partner with cdc and the oversight of select agents because of our expertise and experience, essentially working with select agents over the past century. through our efforts to prevent dangers to these agents from impacting u.s. agricul