dr. dipu moni?think when we talked about religion, you know, religious people are fighting all the things that the use for killing each other. those are normal products of time. [laughter] >> you have to do something well. hattie use science. that includes that things like weapons. better not to use them in a bad way. >> religion really wants to be for the good spirit at the end of the day, sometimes it is the interpretation of people that has made it geared towards the dark side. i think whether it is science of politics, we have to learn to live together and work together. at the end of the day, we have the same goal, and that is the most important thing. >> michele, dr. dipu moni, richard, thank you all very much for appearing on "rendezvous." until next time, goodbye. ♪ >> makes sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding for this presentation is made possible by -- the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu newman's own foundation and union bank. ♪ >> at union