dr. dorsey blake. >>> welcome back to mosaic. we have been talking to reverend dr. rsey blake about dr. howard thurman and the church photograph our people. how did you end up being the pastor there? >> whatever alabama after this incident, we were rejected by the clutch, a few years later, i decided to return to the bay area to work on a ph.d. >> uh-huh. >> i wasn't sure, actually i would return to the bay area. i looked at other places. i wasn't sure i was going to return to religion, to be honest. there were other things i was looking at, international studies. quite happily, in the process of all of this, i received a call from dr. howard thurman who said he had heard that i was returning to the bay area to do religion studies. i had not decided yesterdayh yet, but, somehow, in the translation, a i was coming back. and he asked me if i wanted to come and work with him. when you receive a call from howard thurman, you do nothing but do that. i ended up working with him. i then went to work with the campus ministry in ohio. then years later, i got a call from dr. w