ahead of that gathering, mario dr draghi is telling european lawmakers that purchases of bonds by the central bank would not reach eu rules. in the meantime, moody's is changing its outlook to negative and the agency warns it might downgrade the block on the four biggest budget backers, germany, france, the uk and netherlands. >> on top of that is a reuters report that draghi's, his nemesis, is increasingly isolated in his opposition to bond buying, so if some of the gate keepers start fawing by the wayside, i wonder if you think germany does turn around. >> the german data is starting to become hideous. remember the german stock market, germany's up 18%. so you've got that, is it up because people feel something good is going to happen or was something good had happened. the the germans do not want to commit financial suicide. we did have that moment where it seems like things were getting together. discord is not in the market. >> right and of course, it always comes back to germany and it its decision. >> they're the rich one. >> they are. they are. >> and gold started going up --