so, i was inspired by everybody from ice cube and dr. dre to big daddy cane, so on and so forth. trying to bring that -- that thing to the forefront because it was kind of from my side of town, new york, it was kind of like not fading away but it looked like -- it didn't look that strong at that point. so my whole plan was to come back with that. >> let me ask you something, because we talked about 1994 and there was a dichotomy, east coast versus west coast, southern regional hip-hop which was just coming out. now it's everywhere, it's everything. in '80s people would listen to blondy and sugar hill gang. now it seems totally natural, once again. the lines have become more blurred. what do you think led to that? i mean, what -- was there a moment? artists in particular that you think helped broker that sort of culture that exists now which samples from everywhere and everything? it's no big deal to hear electro in a rap song whereas 20 years ago that would have been unheard of. >> things evolve. go back to africa. they were doing electro in '81, '82, his thing was sci-fi. they i

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