thank you. [ applause ] >> just to remind the question to dr. duran, did the camelists support the coup at the beginning of the oc party and the populist dimension of the democracy movement and the future of civil military relations in turkey. in the future. well, starting and talking about is there any alliance of camelists and gulenists behind this coup d'etat. actually if there was a real alliance between camelists and guleni gulenists this attempt would be much more bloody and more difficult for the government to suppress this attempt, but, of course, there can be some people and some soldiers who were expecting promotion in their offices from this coup attempt, you know. and in each coup d'etat or military intervention, military officers gained many things, so maybe some of them expected something from this attempt, but it was not an alliance, actually. we cannot say that, so -- the reason for this, you know, different sectors of turkish society, including kemalists, kurds, suffered from the -- from the acts of this gulenist movement in different

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